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reallyswellgal
she was a childhood hero of mine and now she’s utterly worthless to me. won’t ever be listening to someone who endorses genocide and doubles down on it. good riddance.
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Thomasclq
It’s a shame she doesn’t call for a ceasefire, I condemn Israel too for ruthlessly bombing innocent civilians. But on the other hand, there was a ceasefire in place when Hamas attacked on October 7. I’m not taking sides though, only that of the people in Gaza. And I fully agreed with how Bernie Sanders reacted. His op-ed in the NYT was spot on. Security for Israel and justice for the Palestinians. Also I’m not sure you could say this is a genocide. Israel shouldn’t bomb Gaza to shreds, but they only want to destroy Hamas, which again I would handle differently. They may be terrorists (on both sides) but they should resolve this conflict by talking. No more bombs, weapons, none of that
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luisdanielurea
While it's true that Zionism is a nationalist movement advocating for a Jewish homeland, it's essential to distinguish between different forms of Zionism. Not all forms support or have supported the occupation or colonization of Palestinian territories. The Nakba, referring to the displacement of Palestinian Arabs in 1948, is historically acknowledged. However, interpretations of the events leading to it may vary. The claim that the Israeli government helped create HAMAS is not proven (Prefer to say it in that way to allow space for doubt). The origins of HAMAS are complex, involving various factors, including regional political dynamics. The statement, "Zionism emerged as a nationalist movement that called all Jewish people around the world to occupy, to colonize, what was then the British mandate of Palestine," might oversimplify the diverse historical and ideological strands within the Zionist movement.
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luisdanielurea
The assertion that "all Jewish Americans" are groomed to endorse genocide is a broad and unfounded generalization. Accusing an individual, such as Regina Spektor, of being "groomed" to endorse genocide is a serious allegation. In this case, if specific evidence or context reveals that Spektor is worried about people being kidnapped by HAMAS, it suggests a legitimate concern on her part. It is important to assess individuals based on their actions and beliefs, taking into account specific evidence and context rather than making broad, baseless accusations. Assuming a uniform stance on a complex issue like genocide oversimplifies the diversity of thoughts within any community. The use of strong and accusatory language, like "groomed to endorse genocide," can escalate tensions and hinder constructive dialogue.
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BabelTBR
Yes, and I admited I was wrong to bundle up all jewish americans like that, but pro-israel propaganda is strong and specially in a country like the USA which has such a common interest partnership with Israel. It's not crazy to say that some jewish americans have been fed all this propaganda since young, since this issue is over half a century old. And Zionism since it's inception has sought the creation of the state of Israel in Palestinian land. Zionism indeed has different variants, some of them being more peaceful than others. And what goes on Palestine can be called a genocide. It has been brought to the international court and not all zionists support genocide. But Regina Spektor has shown specific negation of those accusations towards the israeli goverment. "israeli civilians are in a degree of danger due to the escalation of tensions between the palestinian resistance and the israeli gov" and "the palestinian civilians are all in danger" are two statements that are compatible.
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evrenselevren
after her recent posts she is dead to me. which kinda hurts after connecting with her music on a deeper level. separating art from the artist is not even an option when she’s actively calling for genocide. she is a rotten person
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syphibliss
she's a great human being. She just knows what islamic terrorism is, so she can't support it
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Undead_Hunter
you can never make whites care abt a middle eastern genocide, they cant even begin to comperhand the pains they put the middle eastern people in.
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sovaraamalie
i used to love her music but god is regina such a disgusting person. how she can double down on her support of israel when so many palestinians are being murdered is appalling
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Thomasclq
Israeli government =/= its people. Have a little perspective. The Jews have suffered so much in the past centuries and I'm not just talking about the holocaust. But of course that doen't mean they should Bomb to shreds. It's a disproportionate response to what happened on October 7.
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sophiedelb
anyone have any artist recommendations for people who sound like her but dont endorse genocide
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sophiedelb
thank u !!! got scared bc my other reply was from a freak, appreciate real tune reccomendation
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AloneAgain0r
Joanna Newsom, Tori Amos, Fiona Apple, Rickie Lee Jones, Laura Nyro, and Weyes Blood are all amazing!
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maninbrussels
JNEW is the GOAT honestly. & Ironically I listened to RS in 2022 for the first time, & fell off in 2023 (no relation to political events.) At that same time I fell in love with Tori Amos. Really a more whole artist than Regina Spektor, with more quality albums — her first five or six albums vs the two or three good ones Regina had — with greater variety on average. Regina had a beautiful voice (with excellent vocal skills) to me, & I loved her idiosyncrasies in her songwriting, but I have little interest in listening to her now. Enjoying an artist that died 50+ years ago that did wrong is one thing because they no longer affect art & life in real time; it is entirely different to still support an artist actively praising the actions of Israel, & passively approving of the razing of a city, the deaths of tens of thousands, & now the desecration of Gaza's ecology through seawater flooding. I can't hear the beauty in her music & not think of the wretchedness of her heart. It's a shame.
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AloneAgain0r
exactly 😕 same here. I liked Regina a lot, and I’ll never deny that Us and Samson are stunning songs, but I can’t accept what Regina’s been saying… but anyway I can go to Tori, Jnew, or Rickie and get more depth regardless. do you ever listen to Rickie? her album Pirates is a fucking pop masterpiece, it’s transcendent
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agadirbarkal
W regina spektor, the story of the jewish people and israel will continue despite all our enemies trying to eliminate us 🇮🇱✌🏼❤️ fuck isis-hamas
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syphibliss
in a world full of islamic propaganda I'm glad to see comments like this. All the best to artists who are brave enough to speak against islamic terror
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luisdanielurea
You don't even know anything about reading in general, that is an obvious thing
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luisdanielurea
People here hate someone who had to leave her home country (Russia) in the middle of her childhood because of discrimination related to her family's religion and political views. Then, you pretend to have an opinion about her as if she were your sim or muppet, just to avoid feeling disappointed. Regardless of whether she's right, half-right, or directly wrong, she is closer to the animosity of a very complex conflict than the great majority here.
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Unathihlubi
It's not a complex conflict it's a genocide. If it wasn't explain the icj ruling or why all the other independent organizations concluded as such. Bffr. As someone who has to flee her home country due to prosecution how could she rationalize what's actively being done to Palestinians who also had to flee their homes? Or do they not matter
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luisdanielurea
If you ignore the fact that media attention became one-sided not only due to the Israeli military operation, but also following an attack where civilians were taken hostage by a group with a manifesto advocating for the extermination of Jews, then calling it genocide is indeed an oversimplification. Also, it's noteworthy that while conflicts like Boko Haram in Nigeria, the Darfur crisis in South Sudan, and the situation with the Uyghurs in China continue to unfold, they often don't receive the same level of attention. It's curious that the conflict involving Jewish people garners more widespread coverage. Perhaps individuals like Regina Spektor have genuine cause for concern.
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Unathihlubi
I don't apologize because I don't want the erasure of Palestinians on their homeland. I don't apologize for thinking supporting the same government that supported apartheid in my country shouldn't be allowed to enact it so many years later. I don't apologize for thinking supporters of a genocide who are descendants of survivors of a genocide are well...stupid. it's not a just "a different opinion " ,it's the supporting of a genocide. And we both no the morality of those aren't a matter of "opinion ". It's right and wrong. And what Israel is doing, just like what Germany did,or what leopald did is an atrocity. An unmitigated violation of human rights. Shame on you and all murderous zionists like you. May God protect the few *Israeli who see Israel for what it is and are able to see past the propaganda and do what's right to fight against the evil your "state " has inacted.
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OmerNurelian
Oh no, people hate Regina now because she defends her people, who were slaughtered, butchered and raped on October 7th. She is so bad :( She also wants the hostages to return home (134 poor women, children and men who have been kidnapped from their homes into gaza) She is the devil!!! :(((( Get out of your bubble, maybe your life is made of black and white. Life in the Middle East is so complex that there are a million shades in between that you can't even fathom in your little brain.
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paledeceiver
because the alleged 134 hostages are worth more than 30 THOUSAND lives right? that's the number of people israel has killed just in the last 6 months, they've been murdering palestinians way before october 7th. this narrative doesn't work. it's actually not complex, it's an apartheid regime, palestinians are treated as second class citizens and are being murdered by israel. israel is funded by western governments, mainly the usa. the genocide needs to end, palestinians deserve the land and deserve to live. free palestine!
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OmerNurelian
People here are broke. I tired from people around the world that try to aducate us and tell us our history, and how we suppose to feel in all of this shit.
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paledeceiver
girl, there are more than 30.000 people who lost their lives during this genocide, there are people starving to death RIGHT NOW because israel won't let food in gaza. your fear does not compare to the real pain that they are feeling, they're the ones who should be scared for their lives, because they're actually at stake. you are comfortably typing from a house, with internet, food and water avaialable, they don't have that. they have real problems, they're being murdered by israel every single day. it's a fucking genocide. of course it's black and white situation, there's the oppressor and the oppressed. palestine will be free.
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OmerNurelian
can you please stop educate me? There is no contradiction between the fact that I want the hostages return to their homes and that I feel pain for innocent people in Gaza who are suffering right now. I support the elimination of Hamas, I am against killing non-involved people. I love Israel and want to continue living here, I want the Palestinians to live in peace as well. Yes, you can feel all these things together. Apparently people who live really far away don't understand that. I don't expect you to understand either. and stop use the word genocide, this is NOT genocide. People there die because Hamas does not protect them. The same thing would happen in Israel if we didn't have the Iron Dome that protects us from the thousands of missiles launched here every day. I know I won't be able to convince you and you probably think I'm a murdering devil because I'm Israeli. So let's agree to disagree and stop the discussion here. Thanks.
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invernointerno
She embraces my soul with her voice and the meaningful songs she sings. I love her so much... 🥹
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paledeceiver
was listening to dance anthem of the 80's and found out she is a zionist. goodbye & free palestine!
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zodiackilled
WAIT WHATTTT i was just about to stop being just a casual listener of hers and she was becoming one of my fav lyricists this is so disappointing to learn
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KOODAMULA1488
hard to dwindle in popularity when youve got a nation of bloodthirsty genocidal maniacs swooning over you
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KOODAMULA1488
Is self-awareness beyond you? Your very presence on this page proves me right you dimwit. Your Regina Spektor listens skyrocketed in Nov 2023, you think other z*onists havent done the same? Sully elsewhere you evil opportunistic coward.
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PatrikMagnus
The actual worst part about Regina Spektor is that there's no telling when she's gonna drop another album.
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KOODAMULA1488
Cause for concern when Seth Rogen of all people sounds reasonable in comparison... If you ever had any doubts where their allegiances lie!
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luisdanielurea
gente como tú se cree que tiene que tiene mucha empatía y lo que cargan es odio y prejuicios
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luisdanielurea
cuando existe gente que opina con las mismas formas que tú, que no eres única, porque no es tanto por las razones, es por las formas y las intenciones, alguien como Regina Spektor tiene mucha razón en estar preocupada. De nuevo, siempre ha sido muy claro lo que te mueve realmente
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Undead_Hunter
idk who is worse, regina spektor or people on this comment section that "dont pick a side"
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Undead_Hunter
idk i think its pretty obvious her posts were not just about concern of her people but they were also filled with resentment towards Palestinians. Her writings are all and only about Jewish people while civilians in Gaza suffer in the same or even in worse conditions.
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luisdanielurea
Maybe... just maybe, because she's Jewish and she suffers it from a Jewish perspective
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luisdanielurea
Maybe... just maybe, they are also civilians who have been captured by a terrorist group that has sought to exterminate a whole nation, including labeling Jewish people as 'the enemies of mankind'.
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helloelsker
44 year old jewish american woman is hysterical about israel. and now for the weather.
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luisdanielurea
It reads as if you actually wish it. But no, this is not about prejudices and anti-Judaism sentiments.
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luisdanielurea
As a Jewish, Regina Spektor expressed public concern about Israeli people being captive by Hamas in Gaza. That raised hate in people with prejudges
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luisdanielurea
You easily call someone "nazi" in a very complex political situation, but you're not one fulled prejudges and hate ;)
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maninbrussels
Yeah, she blocked me on Instagram because I voiced dissent on her first post after 07 October. I could understand if I said something truly vitriolic or hateful, but I just said she was myopic & called her a liberal lol. Good riddance I guess. Only got into her music a year ago but it's astonishing someone could make a song as tender & beautiful as 'On the Radio' & be absolutely blinded by their religious identity in the face of thousands & thousands dead. Really funny that she'll say 'Israel's government is NOT its people' & then, not even two weeks later, basically regurgitate propaganda derived from Netanyahu's most recent speech. Complaining about people calling her a 'zionist' for... supporting a state founded on Zionism? They always say 'don't meet your heroes.' & in this age that clearly doesn't have to mean in the flesh. We met her up-close in these last weeks & it was in grizzly detail.
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Thomasclq
I'm not choosing sides in the conflict and I understand Regina's sentiments. I still respect her, she hasn't posted anything I disagree with. But to be clear, I don't support this endless bombing of Gaza, there should be a ceasefire immediately (not just a 'humanitarian pause') and the hostages should also all be released.
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Undead_Hunter
idk if you can believe it but systemic terrorism by the israeli state that palestinian people have been facing for over 50 years also sucks 🤯 🤯
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THEKILLINGSPREE
I know we still got a month to go, but "Home, Before and After" is my favourite album of 2022, and probably my favourite from Regina. Definitely the one I've listened to the most.
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