Damnation

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Sony BMG Music Entertainment
Veröffentlicht am
24. Sep. 2008
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8 Titel
Laufzeit
43:01

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1 Windowpane 7:44 221.324
2 In My Time of Need 5:46 193.460
3 Death Whispered a Lullaby 5:49 175.771
4 Closure 5:15 166.609
5 Hope Leaves 4:26 178.086
6 To Rid the Disease 6:18 158.470
7 Ending Credits 3:35 151.120
8 Weakness 4:08 146.187

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  • JBThazard

    OK NO LAST POST FOR REALSIES: I just remembered this, though I can't remember which Porcupine Tree song it was, it had this lame breakdown-esque section where the guitars and bass were simply strumming open 6th strings in some weird and campy attempt at being heavy. To me it sounded like a really bad attempt at trying to have a little metal in their song, so musically it was very derivative and bland and the impression it left on me in a more mental sense was extremely unaffectionate. Then one fanboy pops up and defends it by saying something along the lines of "but it helps contribute to the atmosphere" ..........and even if that's true, this is part of my point from before, that atmosphere/emotion are not always necessarily good things all the time, just as they are not necessarily pretentious. It's the fans who consistently prove themselves to be pedantic.

    11. Sep., 20:13 Antworten
  • JBThazard

    And last post because I tend to triple post on this site: Free form Jazz is often loathed by rock/metal fans as they can see it as the epitome of pretentious wankery. Like with what I've seen with Miles Davis' Kind of Blue (an album I describe as extremely intricate and emotional), they can't process what they're hearing and it leaves them with a monotonous feeling. Albert Ayler doesn't normally care for portraying human sensibilities in his music, he cared about experimenting with the boundaries of collective improv and discovering new harmonies in the process. It can sound like a mess but I enjoy and respect the journey he chose and it has shown me some very interesting and enjoyable things. Pharoah Sanders has made some of the most intensely emotional music I've ever heard yet someone not used to his style (he is still pretty technical himself) can easily brush it off as wankery garbage.

    11. Sep., 20:03 Antworten
  • JBThazard

    I've heard very emotional songs that were terrible (looking at you, In My Time of Need), either because of bad musicality or just because the intuitions and notions they were portraying to me on a more "human/emotional" level were vapid to begin with. And then I've heard unemotional songs that have been fucking brilliant, whether because of great musical attributes or because they opened my eyes to possibilities not bound to human feelings. Treating music like it has to be emotional only accomplishes the exact opposite of what it advocates, promoting open-mindedness and an enlightened understanding of music itself and the human soul. Both parties in this war are ostentatious to me, because music is much more profound than merely pandering to our senses of joy, melancholy, etc.. Music should strive to do a little more than just be super fast and technical, or just stimulate your limbic system. Music and emotion are not even processed in the same parts of the brain anyway.

    11. Sep., 19:59 Antworten
  • JBThazard

    Well of course atmosphere isn't necessarily pretentious, that was never the idea. It's just a word that's used to replace an actual concrete description or opinion that people are too lazy to develop and thus comprehend nowadays. I also wasn't saying that music is never nor should never be emotional. This is a bit of a different topic entirely now but people seem to be stuck in a false dichotomy when it comes to music. If it's super technical and fast (or maybe there's something else to that stereotype that I'm forgetting), it's branded as pretentious and soulless and wankery nonsense. These are the popular terms we have all seen. It's just a war waged on a specific kind of musicality in order to validate another. Pretentious uber fast guitarists have no feeling or emotive qualities "pretending" to be elite and smart when really it's all about "emotion" because that's the "real way" to understand music.

    11. Sep., 19:42 Antworten
  • Sanity_Theorist

    If music isn't emotional, what's the point? I like my fair share of more relaxed bands (like you mentioned, recent Katatonia,) but Steven Wilson's influence tends to water things down below elevator music level. Maybe if this had symphonic elements...those tend to develop atmosphere a lot more. Atmosphere isn't pretentious, it adds impact for progressive rock/metal. Doesn't have to be Wintersun level, but I welcome ambition. The Tea Party does a lot with 3 instrument layers and a vocalist.

    11. Sep., 6:01 Antworten
  • majidtarokh

    One Of Favorite Album Of All Time♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

    6. Sep., 17:47 Antworten
  • arglactable

    That appraisal of this album is extremely accurate, especially in light of the new album for which "long-time fans" have to justify their hatred of new Opeth with "I liked Damnation! That was prog rock!" and meaningless musical buzzwords like emotional, passionate, and atmospheric in a weak attempt to explain why, beyond the fact that it isn't extreme metal, the new album is shit and should be a side project instead of an Opeth album.

    26. Aug., 3:28 Antworten
  • JBThazard

    Sanity_Theorist, it took me exactly 6 tries to fall in love with this record; I truly hated it before then. There's still hope. As for why it's their most listened to record, that's much easier to explain: 1) It's not metal. So rock/pop fans who hear about this band will listen to this one the most. 2) Female metalheads - the kind who listen to a lot of Katatonia - love melancholic/bleak soft music more so than the genre of music they advertise themselves as being tr00 fans of. 3) It's probably their catchiest album, and I mean that in a bad way. As much as I like most of this record, In My Time of Need has arguably the lamest chorus the band has ever done. 4) 16-24 year olds new favorite trendy gimmick is calling music emotional and/or atmospheric when they want to sound intelligent or sophisticated, and Damnation is an easy target of these 2 elements. I care about them too but not pedantically to the point that I overuse these words to seem deep and mature to myself and others.

    27. Jul., 3:50 Antworten
  • AnarchyBrony

    Just...it's so beautiful.

    23. Jul., 23:27 Antworten
  • OcellatedGod

    30. Jun., 23:43 Antworten
  • Soilex

    This album, i believe, wasn't made to listen actively to.

    30. Jun., 9:51 Antworten
  • DestinyBond

    Tinha esquecido de como eu amo essa desgraça de álbum =D

    21. Jun., 3:03 Antworten
  • Sanity_Theorist

    Well, the best parts are like Comus...but not as well done. I recommend them to fans of this.

    18. Jun., 16:26 Antworten
  • Sanity_Theorist

    I've listened to this album 4 times trying to see the appeal, I just can't. This album being Opeth's most listened to on Last.fm will continue to boggle me.

    30. Mai., 3:44 Antworten
  • CountOfTuscany_

    I listen to this album before I sleep [4] Damnation is the Opeth perfect album.

    20. Mai., 20:46 Antworten
  • Motiv3ter

    beautiful album.

    15. Mär., 14:50 Antworten
  • Cacnep

    I listen to this album before I sleep [3] not always, but often

    1. Mär., 13:56 Antworten
  • adelepts

    Esse Damnation é épico cara :3

    25. Jan., 13:58 Antworten
  • A13k5G

    Fucking amazing.

    17. Jan., 21:08 Antworten
  • Sanity_Theorist

    Surprisingly drab...

    27. Dez. 2013 Antworten
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