Symphonic Metal with influences of Progressive Metal

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- Stahlfisch schrieb...
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- 8. Apr. 2007, 21:06
Symphonic Metal with influences of Progressive Metal

Hello,

I'm a great fan of Symphonic Metal and Progressive Metal. Now I'm searching for bands which connect both genres. At the moment the only band I found is Adagio from France. Do you know other bands with big influences by Progressive Metal?

[quote][b][user]Stahlfisch[/user][/b] sagte: Hello, I'm a great fan of Symphonic Metal and Progressive Metal. Now I'm searching for bands which connect both genres. At the moment the only band I found is Adagio from France. Do you know other bands with big influences by Progressive Metal?[/quote]

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- [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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- 12. Apr. 2007, 3:40
try epica

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] sagte: try epica [/quote]

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- SpHaeR schrieb...
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- 20. Apr. 2007, 17:07
I wouldn't count Epica as progressive. I can't think of any other good examples except for Adagio at the moment.

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[quote][b][user]SpHaeR[/user][/b] sagte: I wouldn't count Epica as progressive. I can't think of any other good examples except for Adagio at the moment. [/quote]

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- everfallen schrieb...
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- 19. Sep. 2007, 19:59
Symphony X

[quote][b][user]everfallen[/user][/b] sagte: Symphony X[/quote]

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- Tarja2012 schrieb...
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- 27. Sep. 2007, 14:26
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- [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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- 11. Okt. 2007, 19:37
You can try Artension...and Ring of Fire.Also Rhapsody.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] sagte: You can try Artension...and Ring of Fire.Also Rhapsody.[/quote]

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- Ju_Smurph schrieb...
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- 14. Nov. 2007, 12:57
Winds.

They have album of the year in my opinion.

[quote][b][user]Ju_Smurph[/user][/b] sagte: Winds. They have album of the year in my opinion.[/quote]

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- SurfMurph schrieb...
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- 11. Mär. 2008, 21:21
Agreed; Winds latest album is definitely in my Top 5 of the year.

[quote][b][user]SurfMurph[/user][/b] sagte: Agreed; Winds latest album is definitely in my Top 5 of the year. [/quote]

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- merlinoftampa schrieb...
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- 16. Aug. 2008, 9:40
Sympho + Prog

I would say Rhapsody, but they have more power metal elements than your average prog metal groups.

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[quote][b][user]merlinoftampa[/user][/b] sagte: I would say Rhapsody, but they have more power metal elements than your average prog metal groups.[/quote]

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- Prog_Metal_Nerd schrieb...
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- 27. Aug. 2008, 12:18
Rhapsody, Epica, Winds and Symphony X are all EPIC :D

[quote][b][user]Prog_Metal_Nerd[/user][/b] sagte: Rhapsody, Epica, Winds and Symphony X are all EPIC :D[/quote]

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- [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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- 16. Sep. 2008, 3:21
Symphony X and Ayreon. Rhapsody has no Prog. Influence, it is just Power Metal like DragonForce.

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] sagte: Symphony X and Ayreon. Rhapsody has no Prog. Influence, it is just Power Metal like DragonForce.[/quote]

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- merlinoftampa schrieb...
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- 19. Sep. 2008, 8:58
Rhapsody

I agree with you Headbanger2510 to a point. Rhapsody is a symphonic power metal band, so I withdraw the recommendation. However, to say that they have no progressive influence is a bit of a stretch.

MOT

[quote][b][user]merlinoftampa[/user][/b] sagte: I agree with you Headbanger2510 to a point. Rhapsody is a symphonic power metal band, so I withdraw the recommendation. However, to say that they have no progressive influence is a bit of a stretch. [/quote]

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- merlinoftampa schrieb...
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- 19. Sep. 2008, 9:09
Prog + Symphonics

While the original search was for symphonic metal bands with prog influences, a band that came to mind conversely was Vanden Plas' "Christ O" album which is a prog metal album with symphonic influences.

MOT

[quote][b][user]merlinoftampa[/user][/b] sagte: While the original search was for symphonic metal bands with prog influences, a band that came to mind conversely was Vanden Plas' "Christ O" album which is a prog metal album with symphonic influences.[/quote]

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- dimaensionx schrieb...
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- 22. Sep. 2008, 16:20
Symphony X's song, "The Odyssey" is probably my favorite example of this, along with most of "V - The Mythology Suite".

If you like (or don't mind) Heavy Death Metal, try Septic Flesh's "Communion" album. Great use of Operatic Choir and Orchestra with death metal.

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[quote][b][user]dimaensionx[/user][/b] sagte: Symphony X's song, "The Odyssey" is probably my favorite example of this, along with most of "V - The Mythology Suite". If you like (or don't mind) Heavy Death Metal, try Septic Flesh's "Communion" album. Great use of Operatic Choir and Orchestra with death metal. Self-Promoting Plugola: Try Dimaension X, either "I Am Become Daevel" or "1st iZ Lazt". Check the discography link - all albums are FREE to download. http://dimaensionxblog.blogspot.com[/quote]

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- merlinoftampa schrieb...
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- 24. Sep. 2008, 8:36
Septic Flesh

I am glad to see someone mention Septic Flesh. Although most melodic death metal groups shy away from using choirs and orchestras because they are afraid their fan base may view this practice as weak, I think it adds extra layers to the music that enhance the dark power that they strive to achieve. I would also regard this practice as progressive, although for some reason most metal enthusiasts equate progressiveness with neoclassical elements.

MOT

[quote][b][user]merlinoftampa[/user][/b] sagte: I am glad to see someone mention Septic Flesh. Although most melodic death metal groups shy away from using choirs and orchestras because they are afraid their fan base may view this practice as weak, I think it adds extra layers to the music that enhance the dark power that they strive to achieve. I would also regard this practice as progressive, although for some reason most metal enthusiasts equate progressiveness with neoclassical elements.[/quote]

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- dimaensionx schrieb...
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- 30. Sep. 2008, 22:27
And I actually like a few of Dimmu Borgir's more interesting symphonic moments - granted they are FAR from being called "progressive", but a few of their songs are worth listening to.

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[quote][b][user]dimaensionx[/user][/b] sagte: And I actually like a few of Dimmu Borgir's more interesting symphonic moments - granted they are FAR from being called "progressive", but a few of their songs are worth listening to.[/quote]

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- merlinoftampa schrieb...
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- 1. Okt. 2008, 9:25
Dimmu Borgir

Dimmu Borgir produces some of the best symphonic black metal I have heard, and their concerts are dramatic and entertaining. Alas, progressive would not be a word I would use to describe their music. That said, I am sure progressive metal fans have listened to Dimmu Borgir and have found their music interesting.

MOT

[quote][b][user]merlinoftampa[/user][/b] sagte: Dimmu Borgir produces some of the best symphonic black metal I have heard, and their concerts are dramatic and entertaining. Alas, progressive would not be a word I would use to describe their music. That said, I am sure progressive metal fans have listened to Dimmu Borgir and have found their music interesting.[/quote]

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- samy1883 schrieb...
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- 15. Dez. 2010, 20:40
Amorphis

[quote][b][user]samy1883[/user][/b] sagte: Amorphis[/quote]

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- merlinoftampa schrieb...
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- 17. Dez. 2010, 8:03
Amorphis

I certainly would consider Amorphis as progressive and at times experimental. Through the years they have incorporated various styles in their music, from melodic death metal to psychedelic to gothic to progressive and even folk metal.

MOT

[quote][b][user]merlinoftampa[/user][/b] sagte: I certainly would consider Amorphis as progressive and at times experimental. Through the years they have incorporated various styles in their music, from melodic death metal to psychedelic to gothic to progressive and even folk metal. [/quote]

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- adg211288 schrieb...
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- 25. Apr. 2011, 15:28
Epica and After Forever.

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[quote][b][user]adg211288[/user][/b] sagte: Epica and After Forever.[/quote]

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- nable7 schrieb...
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- 16. Mai. 2011, 20:45
Maybe we should define progressive metal here. I would tend to think that all symphonic metal has progressive influences by definition.

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[quote][b][user]nable7[/user][/b] sagte: Maybe we should define progressive metal here. I would tend to think that all symphonic metal has progressive influences by definition.[/quote]

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- merlinoftampa schrieb...
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- 19. Mai. 2011, 6:57
Defining prog metal and symphonic metal

Progressive metal is generally defined as blending heavy metal with prog rock, characterized by complex compositional structures, odd time signatures, and concept albums. Prog metal is usually guitar driven with keyboards ( in bands that use them) assuming a more supporting role, although many prog metal bands like to use dueling guitar and keyboard solos ala Dream Theater. Symphonic metal is generally defined as blending heavy metal and symphonic elements (orchestral arrangements or synthesizers mimicking orchestral arrangements). Symphonic metal is usually keyboard driven, with guitars assuming a supporting role. Prog metal is largely male dominated in the vocal area whereas symphonic metal is largely female dominated in the vocal area. So there are some noticable differences between the two subgenres. But there is a large crossover between these two subgenres. As a result many fans of prog metal like symphonic metal, and vise versa.

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[quote][b][user]merlinoftampa[/user][/b] sagte: Progressive metal is generally defined as blending heavy metal with prog rock, characterized by complex compositional structures, odd time signatures, and concept albums. Prog metal is usually guitar driven with keyboards ( in bands that use them) assuming a more supporting role, although many prog metal bands like to use dueling guitar and keyboard solos ala Dream Theater. Symphonic metal is generally defined as blending heavy metal and symphonic elements (orchestral arrangements or synthesizers mimicking orchestral arrangements). Symphonic metal is usually keyboard driven, with guitars assuming a supporting role. Prog metal is largely male dominated in the vocal area whereas symphonic metal is largely female dominated in the vocal area. So there are some noticable differences between the two subgenres. But there is a large crossover between these two subgenres. As a result many fans of prog metal like symphonic metal, and vise versa.[/quote]

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- Leigh2428 schrieb...
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- 19. Mai. 2011, 20:31
I would defintely say EPICA. Symphonic metal more than anything else, but i have their last two albums, and IMO they incorporate a lot of Progressive elements, as well as Death/Black metal elements. Their compositions seem much more..well..progressive than most of their Symphonic Metal peers.

[quote][b][user]Leigh2428[/user][/b] sagte: I would defintely say EPICA. Symphonic metal more than anything else, but i have their last two albums, and IMO they incorporate a lot of Progressive elements, as well as Death/Black metal elements. Their compositions seem much more..well..progressive than most of their Symphonic Metal peers. [/quote]

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- merlinoftampa schrieb...
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- 20. Mai. 2011, 8:41
Epica

Indeed Epica and most other symphonic metal bands employ complex song structure, which is a trait of prog metal. This supports nable 7's assertion that symphonic metal is progressive in nature.

MOT

[quote][b][user]merlinoftampa[/user][/b] sagte: Indeed Epica and most other symphonic metal bands employ complex song structure, which is a trait of prog metal. This supports nable 7's assertion that symphonic metal is progressive in nature.[/quote]

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- Leigh2428 schrieb...
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- 24. Mai. 2011, 6:52
Actually yes I think you're right. I don't think every symphonic metal band, but maybe for instance, Nightwish, especially when it comes to songs such as 'Ghost Love Score', and 'The Poet and the Pendulum', etc...seem pretty progressive.

[quote][b][user]Leigh2428[/user][/b] sagte: Actually yes I think you're right. I don't think every symphonic metal band, but maybe for instance, Nightwish, especially when it comes to songs such as 'Ghost Love Score', and 'The Poet and the Pendulum', etc...seem pretty progressive. [/quote]

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