Ideas, Pomysly, Ideen

i've sent you this in a PM, but here it goes again so we can discuss it..

my idea is: maybe the generator should count not the tags that other people did, but our own. or maybe get the genre information from trusted source, like for example www.Metal-archives.com or wikipedia.org. i'm saying this because some tags people give doesnt make any sense (to me). like for example "seen live". what if i havent seen them live? or "female vocalists" and "female fronted". i have them counted separately by the way. it can be any band from Ot3p to Black Eyed Peas...
and why not add together similar tags like "finnish" and "finland"; cuz thats the same, but is counted separately.

i'd like to see the historical charts/graphs back in action. dunno why it was disabled. (oh well maybe server load :>)

Hallo!

Yeah ist a good idea with a tag-filter, but not for version 1, because its a horrorible work...
The OMI Databse has now 324.707 bands with over 25.000 tags... :(
I hope in the OMI version 2.0 we can use the fingerprint system of last.fm, or we can make a special OMI filter.

Here are the top 1000 tags:

LASTFM-TAG COUNTER
seen live 8426
rock 7888
electronic 4468
punk 4332
jazz 4097
indie 3902
hardcore 3278
Hip-Hop 3140
pop 3088
black metal 3075
japanese 2851
folk 2768
trance 2528
ambient 2432
Soundtrack 2294
rap 2169
metal 2077
ska 1885
Classical 1829
House 1816
reggae 1643
death metal 1619
alternative 1497
experimental 1409
Progressive rock 1341
dance 1259
hip hop 1239
Drum and bass 1215
industrial 1181
blues 1013
singer-songwriter 1008
grindcore 995
female vocalists 976
french 952
post-rock 952
metalcore 936
techno 918
chillout 902
funk 898
punk rock 896
heavy metal 878
soul 868
electronica 864
emo 846
psychedelic 823
indie rock 822
russian 821
thrash metal 812
hard rock 786
german 772
finnish 769
psytrance 765
screamo 750
instrumental 736
j-pop 714
Brutal Death Metal 711
anime 710
country 707
swedish 691
comedy 658
noise 656
electro 655
idm 652
video game music 652
doom metal 633
dub 628
Power metal 623
rnb 608
latin 600
80s 596
acoustic 587
polish 575
dark ambient 569
Progressive metal 559
world 557
indie pop 548
Canadian 517
alternative rock 504
J-rock 484
Melodic Death Metal 481
classic rock 468
podcast 462
post-punk 447
minimal 444
ebm 443
mistagged artist 433
visual kei 432
new wave 420
christian 416
synthpop 383
Gothic Metal 381
Nu-metal 377
Stoner Rock 372
celtic 368
Oi 362
Garage Rock 352
RAC 345
lounge 343
chinese 339

hiphop 336
spanish 334
trip-hop 330
psychobilly 327
australian 322
guitar 322
Korean 320
italian 320
deathcore 319
downtempo 317
pop punk 308
piano 296
new age 285
brazilian 284
post-hardcore 280
Czech 273
breakcore 270
neofolk 267
turkish 266
russian rock 262
shoegaze 260
rockabilly 260
darkwave 257
Avant-Garde 247
easy listening 246
mpb 245
mistagged 242
Gothic 237
Alt-country 235
Disco 233
folk metal 231
hardstyle 230
norwegian 225
Gothic Rock 223
Surf 217
Sludge 214
rapcore 207
Crust 196
Grunge 194
Drum n Bass 191
medieval 190
power pop 190
Psychedelic Rock 190
dubstep 186
contemporary classical 185
eurobeat 183
dancehall 183
musical 182
JPop 177
dnb 177
game 177
lesser known yet streamable artists 175
60s 169
Reggaeton 168
Game Music 166
Progressive 166
african 165
bluegrass 165
dutch 163
lithuanian 162
acid jazz 162
baroque 159
oldies 157
arabic 156
Fusion 156
Bossa Nova 153
female vocalist 153
irish 151
twee 149
gay 148
Soundtracks 148
emocore 148
progressive trance 146
Greek 145
Progressive House 145
k-pop 143
World Music 142
classic 140
Nu Metal 138
brasil 138
jungle 135
icelandic 133
Mellow 132
Ukrainian 131
Lo-Fi 130
breakbeat 130
ost 130
deathrock 129
funny 128
New Zealand 127
deutschpunk 127
industrial metal 127
tango 126
Flamenco 125
nsbm 123
swing 122
hardcore punk 122
britpop 120
Broadway 120
brazil 116

Grime 115
pop rock 115
drone 113
hungarian 112
musicals 112
noise rock 109
Nederlandstalig 108
folk rock 107
dark electro 106
Smooth Jazz 106
Love 106
chanson francaise 105
deep house 105
goa 105
underground hip-hop 105
Hello Project 105
danish 103
goregrind 103
opera 102
math rock 101
ethereal 101
ska punk 100
Gangsta Rap 100
breaks 100
funky 99
israeli 99
mashup 98
horror punk 98
Gypsy 98
cabaret 96
70s 96
pagan metal 95
electropop 94
spoken word 93
eurodance 93
krautrock 91
chanson 90
humour 88
klezmer 87
poetry 87
post rock 87
Awesome 86
crossover 85
sexy 84
ethnic 84
remix 83
avantgarde 83
Deutschrap 82
goth 81
favorites 81
Belgium 80
germany 80
turntablism 78
gospel 78
netlabel 77
salsa 76
christian rock 75
jamendo 75
british 75
female 75
happy hardcore 74
viking metal 74
estonian 74
garage 74
Italo Disco 74
free jazz 73
folk punk 73
speedcore 73
90s 72
russian alternative 72
bollywood 72
digital hardcore 72
guitar virtuoso 72
chill 72
americana 71
Pop-Rock 71
Disney 71
minimal techno 71
martial industrial 70
humor 70
Rock and Roll 69
political 68
shit 68
cool 68
vocal 67
Technical Death Metal 67
mathcore 67
thai 66
music 66
Audiobook 66
symphonic metal 66
Garage Punk 66
deutsch 65
bulgarian 65
anarcho-punk 65
american 65
Crap 65
Pop-punk 64
Electroclash 64
nu jazz 63

samba 63
japan 63
street punk 63
russian rap 62
melodic hardcore 62
rock n roll 62
OC ReMix 62
UK 62
chiptune 61
composer 60
belgian 60
jumpstyle 59
chile 58
Southern Rock 58
detroit 58
OPM 57
uk Hardcore 57
soft rock 57
Hard Trance 57
Romanian 57
alternative metal 57
video game 56
Scottish 56
demoscene 55
jrock 55
Bemani 54
hair metal 54
FIMAV 54
seiyuu 54
cybergrind 53
taiwan 53
blues rock 53
vocal trance 53
Acid 52
Female fronted metal 52
thrash 52
poezja spiewana 52
fun 51
underground 50
psychedelic trance 50
glam rock 49
funeral doom 49
Punk-Rock 49
club 49
latvian 48
Eesti 48
power electronics 48
Indian 48
5432fun 48
Israeli Rock 47
space rock 47
sertanejo 47
Post punk 47
turkish rock 46
C-pop 46
a cappella 46
male vocalists 45
Rock Argentino 45
ska-punk 45
creative commons 45
melodic black metal 44
Eurovision 44
japanese rock 44
game soundtrack 44
Hindi 44
electro house 44
early music 44
covers 44
Doom 43
slovak 43
mod 42
favourite 42
Bhangra 41
chill out 41
wizard rock 41
Gabber 41
dream pop 41
spanish indie pop 40
bass 40
riot grrrl 40
amazing 40
mash-up 40
portuguese 40
balkan 40
schranz 40
Kpop 39
tejano 39
beautiful 39
Retro 39
ragga 39
polskie 39
live 38
Persian 38
futurepop 38
Portugal 38
touhou 38
german hiphop 37
Officially Shit 37
argentina 37
latin pop 37

nederhop 37
female vocals 36
C64 36
trip hop 36
hebrew 35
Music to download 35
NWOBHM 35
Spanish Rock 35
melodic metal 35
AOR 35
Schlager 34
noisecore 34
beats 34
Neo-Soul 34
TFF Rudolstadt 34
New Weird America 33
electronic dub 33
neoclassical 33
speed metal 33
Jam 33
Grind 33
underground rap 33
quebec 33
Rave 32
Russian Pop 32
Favorite 32
ddr 32
nu-jazz 32
powernoise 32
depressive black metal 31
parody 31
Elephant 6 31
female artists 31
check out 31
jazz fusion 30
relax 30
video games 30
industrial rock 30
english 30
power violence 30
Berlin 30
Irish Folk 29
northern soul 29
glitch 29
great 29
france 29
Podcasts 29
polish rock 29
serbian 29
stoner 29
female vocal 29
Favourites 28
swiss 28
christmas 28
cuban 28
American Idol 28
mexico 28
not available on Last-fm radio yet 28
Audiobooks 28
ninja tune 28
cover 28
bard 28
classical guitar 27
Hawaiian 27
Ragga Jungle 27
Cryptofa 27
trumpet 27
Local 27
native american 27
8-bit 27
Dirty South 27
Alta-tensao 27
romantic 27
Sweden 27
synth pop 27
Symphonic Black Metal 26
renaissance 26
Radio 26
male 26
bad taste 26
galiza 26
8bit 26
folk-rock 26
Hoerspiel 26
USA 26
croatian 25
melodic 25
catalan 25
kizomba 25
polish hip-hop 25
progressive death metal 25
cello 25
dark 25
german rap 25
progg 25
Straight Edge 25
darkpsy 25
fado 25
indian classical 25
mutek 25

relaxing 25
chicago 25
tzadik 24
alt rock 24
minimal electronic 24
Johnnys entertainment 24
exotica 24
french rap 24
spanish hip-hop 24
Rhythmic Noise 24
alternative pop 24
cumbia 24
r and b 24
other 24
hands up 24
szanty 24
melodic rock 24
emo violence 24
idols 24
duet 24
Dark metal 23
Forro 23
Old school Hardcore 23
Emotional Hardcore 23
italo 23
surf rock 23
space age pop 23
soca 23
pra 23
calypso 23
vietnamese 23
hardcore techno 23
oshare kei 22
Eurovision Song Contest 22
scandinavian 22
Rock en Espanol 22
melbourne 22
zouk 22
California 22
Italia mia 22
synth 22
uruguay 22
new york 22
slowcore 22
dainuojamoji poezija 22
00s 22
punkrock 22
singer songwriter 22
old school 22
post hardcore 22
francais 21
italiana 21
hip hop tuga 21
Asian 21
anime soundtrack 21
video game remixes 21
liedermacher 21
nerdcore 21
emusic 21
belarus 21
Trash 20
rhythm and blues 20
Sensation Black 20
Polski Hip Hop 20
canada 20
anime ost 20
instrumental hip-hop 20
indiepop 20
BG 20
Bands I have seen live 20
rock chileno 19
football 19
instrumental rock 19
game remixes 19
goth rock 19
import 19
good 19
Horrorcore 19
ye-ye 19
swedish hiphop 19
traditional 19
showtunes 19
big beat 19
violin 19
freak zone 19
vgm 19
africa 19
Denver 19
the worst thing ever to happen to music 19
prank 18
preview 18
SXSW2007 18
greek rock 18
mistagged track 18
ethno 18
antifolk 18
bitpop 18
Israel 18
Neo-Pagan 18
Acapella 18

no wave 18
bg hip hop 18
dj 18
worship 18
bagpipes 18
angura kei 18
choral 18
latin jazz 18
slovenia 18
south african 18
thrashcore 18
art rock 18
elektro 18
viking rock 17
cpop 17
indie folk 17
powerviolence 17
uplifting trance 17
Jazz Hop 17
finland 17
heavy 17
shanties 17
hard techno 17
genius 17
recommended to me 17
jazzy 17
urban 17
powerpop 17
indietronica 17
Musica Portuguesa 17
detroit rap 17
Black 17
french pop 17
freak folk 17
Hardtek 17
underground hip hop 17
Czech Republic 17
latino 17
christian metal 17
Nintendocore 17
Broken Beat 17
francophone 16
duyster 16
jewish 16
South Asian 16
england 16
J-Indie 16
party 16
motown 16
doujin 16
minimalism 16
folklore 16
pop-folk 16
cuba 16
Curious 16
bachata 16
french hip-hop 16
Espanol 16
venezuela 16
happy 16
post-grunge 16
Suomisaundi 16
polish punk 16
Aussie Hip-Hop 16
doo wop 16
sweet 16
quebecois 15
videogame 15
skate punk 15
frenchcore 15
trash metal 15
Videogame Music 15
a capella 15
weird 15
singapore 15
Turkish Pop 15
piano rock 15
finnish metal 15
Suomi 15
taiwanese 15
Japanese Indie 15
minimal wave 15
emd 15
composers 15
Ballad 15
film score 15
proto-punk 15
glam punk 15
final fantasy 15
Muusika 15
hip-hop and rap 15
Mundart 15
spain 15
psychill 15
Japanese music 15
Female Voices 14
tv 14
fantasy 14
Aussie 14
wrestling 14

cajun 14
abstract hip-hop 14
glam 14
ZORAX 14
ex-yu 14
lol 14
The Good Stuff 14
rock gaucho 14
melancholic 14
nice 14
the-slash 14
enka 14
chileno 14
duets 14
organ 14
beatdown 14
streetpunk 14
70s-80s new music - rock 14
orchestra 14
cartoon 14
nurse with wound list 14
mod revival 14
cantautores mia MIA 14
atmospheric 14
classical music 14
Austria 14
groove 14
Minnesota 13
polish music 13
Clasica 13
Experimental Rock 13
ECM 13
coldwave 13
lounge-radio 13
west coast 13
regional mexican 13
nouvelle scene francaise 13
kabarett 13
capoeira 13
basque 13
friends 13
david 13
apocalyptic folk 13
Local Bands 13
indonesia 13
baroque or early 13
melodic punk 13
prog 13
bella topolina 13
spacesynth 13
Hip Hop Latino 13
turkish pop history 13
conductor 13
melancholy 13
party trash 13
trova 13
afrobeat 13
chrzescijanska 13
Favorite Artists 12
Deutschrock 12
finnish punk 12
ytmnd 12
vallenato 12
game soundtracks 12
epic metal 12
peruvian 12
rock nacional 12
acoustic guitar 12
damned good 12
rocksteady 12
Bosnian 12
new 12
cantautor 12
stoner metal 12
games 12
tech house 12
seattle 12
indonesian 12
cymraeg 12
Axe 12
Swedish Punk 12
blues-rock 12
mix 12
NDW 12
Colombia 12
Jazz Rock 12
Latin Rock 12
Trance House Techno 12
French hip hop 12
baile funk 12
cold wave 12
kids 12
alt country 12
Gone but not Forgotten 11
Yass 11
Funk Carioca 11
choir 11
rap francais 11
Polish RAP 11
deep listening 11

Latin Rap 11
Georgian Alternative Music 11
mash up 11
TV Themes 11
electrohouse 11
rock francais 11
Minimal Electro 11
summer 11
catala 11
india 11
unknown 11
quirky 11
Zeuhl 11
Armenian 11
songwriter 11
Tribute 11
The Arctic Circle 11
desi 11
freestyle 11
detroit techno 11
dansk rap 11
bfr 11
Italy 11
rock argento 11
wrong artist tags 11
hard core 11
chanson francophone 11
4 letter artists 11
audio book 11
d-beat 11
carl and carlos 11
Peru 11
new rave 11
Alternativo 11
yes yes yes 11
Esperanto 11
albums I own 11
good music 11
central asian 11
60s psychedelic and garage 10
bubblegum 10
monotonik 10
slightly streamable 10
finnish rock 10
Bay Area 10
jazz vocal 10
Mittelalter 10
belarusian rock 10
Fox 10
psych-folk 10
tech-house 10
artists reviewed in groove magazine 10
nagoya kei 10
Raggacore 10
FIR 10
electro-industrial 10
50s 10
shoegazer 10
hot 10
improv 10
sex 10
Guilty Pleasures 10
male vocalist 10
dark wave 10
Funk Rock 10
Roskilde 2007 10
Rent 10
polish jazz 10
sardinian 10
epic 10
netaudio 10
john and joan 10
UK Garage 10
smooth 10
Hollywood Glam 10
Pagode 10
freeform 10
outsider 10
film music 10
Acoustic Rock 10
The Beat 10
lazha 10
r n b 10
world fusion 10
breton 10
mexican 10
rai 10
Bardai 10
gypsy jazz 10
Favoritos 10
athens 10
blips and bleeps 10
crust punk 10
Post-Metal 10
skacore 10
artcore 10
Hardtrance 9
punk hardcore 9
pagan black metal 9
mixtape 9

disco polo 9
montreal 9
spanish pop 9
queercore 9
virginia 9
throat singing 9
orchestral 9
patchanka 9
austrian 9
avant garde 9
city sounds 9
Hong Kong 9
get your damn tags right 9
Katzenmusik 9
dark folk 9
Norway 9
festa major 9
eclectic 9
bootleg 9
djvibes 9
zxzw 9
Hard Blues Psychedelic Heavy Acid Prog Classic Roc... 9
acid folk 9
georgian music 9
Bay Slaps 9
Musical theatre 9
dada 9
fastcore 9
iskelma 9
ciasteczka 9
musical theater people 9
chip 9
god 9
Belarusian 9
ukulele 9
harsh noise 9
poet 9
across the universe 9
cute 9
paris couleur nuit 9
euro trance 9
Balkan hip-hop 9
2 s34rch 9
seen in concert 9
arabesk 9
Few manistream artists and all others are undergro... 9
mike patton 9
groove metal 9
best 9
porngrind 9
Skinhead 9
Brega 9
shibuya-kei 9
Dipset 9
Demenziale 9
symphonic 9
German hip hop 9
skinhead reggae 9
icke micke 9
idol 9
progressive breaks 9
J-music 9
accordion 9
raw black metal 9
artists 9
Avant-garde Metal 9
video game soundtrack 9
Black Rock 9
rock alternativo 9
H5N1 9
poprock 9
space 9
chalga 9
unsigned 9
atlanta 9
experimental electronic 9
contemporary christian 9
brit pop 8
score 8
j-urban 8
brilliant 8
New Age and Ambient 8
neurofunk 8
unblack 8
australia 8
gregorian chant 8
bolly 8
shitkatapult 8
Favorite Bands 8
here 8
boltonesque 8
Guitar Hero 8
hard house 8
Dreamy 8
turkish folk 8
Polish hip hop 8
crack rock steady 8
New Orleans 8
chant 8
thai pop 8

Instead of having a "cool-of" for the OMI calculation of one month (Now: if I calculated it on March, 20th, I'll have to wait till April, 20th) could we make it once-a-month: so, if I calculated it March, 20th I can calculate it again April, 1st (or April 3rd or 4th, after my charts updated), but not twice in the same month. Or is there too much danger of crashing the server when the charts are updated in the beginning of the month and everyone recalculates their OMIs? ^^

I have an idea I'd like to see implemented.

I listen to a lot of video game music, and a lot of junk tags get associated with that. It's the reason I never used OMI before, because it just gave a bullshit graph. I recently saw you added a tag ignore feature, so I thought "Great, now I can ignore 'game', 'game music', etc., and make room for my metal tags."

Of course, that wasn't the case. After I ignore everything I want to ignore, it just says 30.0% video game music and 67.7% (wait, wut?) other.

That makes for a pretty boring graph. Any chance implementing a way of bumping those other tags up? Like giving people a choice of how many tags should be used in the graph.

I would be very grateful.

@koji7- compare for example Drone Metal (like Sunn O))) ) and Death Metal, and answer the question: are they so similar that can be counted as just "Metal"?

try Sunn O))) :
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i know that this is strange music, but there are ppl that listen to it, and I think that they are far from "standard metal"

I have some suggestions. This is about weighing the tags.

1. The dependend tag problem
As described above Death Meatl is Metal and Power Metal is also Metal, but most Death Metal isn't Power Metal.
Solution:
Compare the bands that are tagged as both with the ones tagges as one. I.e. if you have 1000 bands tagged as Metal and 100 as Death Metal and 90 of them tagged as both. You get the probability of 9:10 that a Death Metal tag is a Metal tag and the probability of 9:100 that a Metal tag is a Death Metal tag. So the the tags must have such a weight for depending.

2. The difference of independent tags
Metal and Rock are not the same, but how much it is not the same ? Somebody who listens to Metal and Rock is surely less open minded that somebody who listens to Metal and Country.
Solution:
With double-tagged bands one can construct a graph between all tags with weights of difference of both. Following the ways from a source tag to a target tag will show how different both are.

3. Underground tags
Listeres to Underground music are mostly more open minded than listeres of mainstream.
Solution:
A often scrobbled tag has less weight. But it also depends of the number of bands that have this tag. A tag with more bands must have a higher weight. So a Bon Jovi-tag has much less weight than a Power Electronics tag if the same amount of listeners listens to PE and Bon Jovi. Also less scrobbled band should have a little more weight than big bands because someone who listens to unknown bands is often more into this scene than someone who just knows one bands of a special style and only listens to that one.

4. Different songs
Some one who listens to a Jazz and a Metal album is more open minded that someone who listens to one Jazz and one Metal song ten times, because he is "more into it".
Solution:
If a top 50 band has a top 50 song the band will get less weight.

I hope this thoughts could be an inspiration for you.

i'm also for tag filtering. Why is open minded (146) someone with doom metal, black metal, progressive metal, folk metal, gothic metal, metal, avant-garde metal, grind metal, gore metal, death metal and similar in the chart?

more of a statement then an idea, but, how about easier embedding to HTML (facebook/myspace)

but to convert this to HTML:

<IMG SRC="whatever the link for your image is..." ALT="idk..something random">

Here's an example (only problem is they won't stack):
<a href=http://omi.musickum.com/index.php5?username=seoulspirit&skin=8>
<IMG SRC="http://omi.musickum.com/graphics/omi/s/8_seoulspirit.png"; ALT="seoulspirit">
<IMG SRC="http://omi.musickum.com/graphics/mmt/s/8_seoulspirit.png"; ALT="seoul">

Example so it's stacked
<a href=http://omi.musickum.com/index.php5?username=seoulspirit&skin=8>
<IMG SRC="http://omi.musickum.com/graphics/omi/s/8_seoulspirit.png"; ALT="seoulspirit">
<br>
<IMG SRC="http://omi.musickum.com/graphics/mmt/s/8_seoulspirit.png"; ALT="seoul">

I think all the metal tags should be merged, or at least some of them. I mean, I've seen people with OMIs of over 170 who have listened to nothing but various different types of metal, which devalues it for the people who actually do have diverse tastes.

Rap and hip-hop (or hip hop and hiphop) should be in one category ;)