NietzscheShoutbox
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Goldi_lox -
Neue_regel_ no.
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whateveruloveur just curious... does anyone have any nietzsche related tattoos?
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LOVES-DESIRE Happy Holidays to everyone and have a fantastic New Year (2012)
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Pedrogrief Have written in Hebrew was only one way to be sarcastic ;)
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Serpent669 -
LadyIks I live only with wisdoms of Nietzshe`s Zaratustra
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SlavicMetalhead Hi all. Today i will start with the book "Der Antichrist" =)
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Pedrogrief
הפילוסוף האירופי הגדול ביותר של המודרניות ... כנראה. חשבתי שלו היה כמו סערה באירופה הישנה. חשיבה זו שימשה זרע לכל דבר כמעט. ספריו היו משמשים כדי להחזיק את כל הטיעונים וכל. אני מכבד אותו אבל מרחם עליו.
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Serpent669
Special greeting to all fans of Fr. Nietzsche! On this date (1888) is published officially ANTICHRIST! (The most powerful book which I ever read aganist the christianity...) So I'm greeting you with my video-fan clip of NAGLFAR which you'll able to look online from the known address: http://www.youtube.com/user/666EugenicSS?feature=mhee#g/a Have a nice weekend!
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ma3lcum -
alienhated Actually I think he was not very proud of that "adventures", that's why he stopped...
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Ugly13 666 members! :-D
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Neue_regel_
@ alienhated In short, the apollonian/dionysian is not necessarily a dualism. One can have aspects of both. However, obviously Nietzsche preferred the dionysian lifestyle which is more hedonistic and promiscuous. This lead him to contract syphilis (possibly from a whore in Italy or Switzerland) in the late 1870's or early 1880's something that ultimately drove him crazy in 1888. 'Ecce Homo' ('88) are just the hopeless and megalomaniac Swan song lines of a dying madman.
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alienhated
Now I remember that the dionysian may be used exactly to argue the opposite, that is, the difference, because it is related to the intuitive, while the apollonian to the abstract, that is the identification of various things in one concept whch implies necessarily that we ignore the differences between things. May this be one of nietzsche contradictions?
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The_Fenix -
alienhated
The ubermensch, I think is: the total acceptance of life even if completely devoid of meaning, truth, etc etc; the acceptance of the eternal return; "becoming what you are"; the philosopher as rule maker; life as art, or as "the work of art".
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alienhated
Natebag. " People calling him 'progressive egalitarian' and 'fascist'. Some interpretations are simply better than others, but no interpretation is complete." I agree. And I think he has a little of both those 2. in one level, apollonian one (order, stability), nobody is equal, we are all born different from each other, but on the other, dionysian one (chaos, change), we are all individuations of the same "will", therefore being the same deep beneath. But the world isn't just one of them, it's both. Truth would lie in the dionysian, falsehood in apollonian. Us, humans, normally think the opposite, that apollonian is the truth and falsehood. He would prefer the dionysian beacause it is more true, or is a better lie.
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Neue_regel_
10 more members before reaching 666. just saying.
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nathczar The greatest!
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LuiDeFines http://www.lastfm.pl/group/Jacques+Derrida+-+Kick+ass+drummer!?setlang=pl
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Alfa-Beta -
dyingdreams You're correct, Adolf was a socialist. Nietzsche however, was not. You would know if you had ever actually read his books.
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Metalfight667 "It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!" Genius!!
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CypheroN Best philosopher since Epicurus [2] Nietzsche and Epicurus are my fav philosophers, wow, man.
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Neue_regel_
Best philosopher since Epicurus
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martensRHCP actually, I read it. he was a fucking good writer.
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lirikfack "Lo dionisiaco frente al crucificado"
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dyingdreams
If you want some help in understanding Nietzsche or just want to dig a little deeper in some of the key concepts like master/slave morality and "the death of god", you can find a rather comprehensive (if I may say so myself :) explanation of this in chapters 4 and 7 of my thesis (the link to which you can find on the top of this page). If you ever read it, be sure to let me know your thoughts :) Untill then, enjoy your class on Nietzsche!
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thisiskevin i'm currently taking a class in my uni that is solely dedicated to nietzsche. i gain more and more respect for him, the more and more i read his works. he truly knew how to write in a poetic, and critical way.
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dyingdreams
New group leader; I'll be adding some more content over the following days.
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wormsaiboty Not to speak about last album's Broken, Beat & Scarred, with the extreme repetition of the chorus: "What don't kill ya make ya more strong"
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wormsaiboty
Glad to see Metallica on top... The four first CD's and the last one really reminds me of Nietzsche because death and paradoxes are always in debate.
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debetcan Hey, check out my new group: Nordic Hearts
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vicskatepunk -
Lietvyris What the fuck why Radiohead is top here?
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Emtay13 Unique to this Group is actually nice. Nietzsche was the best.
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vicskatepunk
I agree with johntardsbaby66 and with dyingdreams. Nietzsche opposed the state, and it's true he dedicated a whole Zarathustra speech for criticize the state. I really got a anarchist view from Zarathustra. I think he called 'dogs' to the socialist-anarchist ones.
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dee_k7 La razón en el lenguaje... Oh! que hembra engañadora! Como sigamos creyendo en la gramática, nunca lograremos desembarazarnos de Dios.
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johntardsbaby66 I agree with dyingdreams, I got an anarchist view from Zarathustra. @HoloHoax: You're pretty fucking stupid. And anarchist as in a way of anti-state, anti-group kind of thing, Will to Power means autonomy. Those who have the most power are those that control themselves completely, if Nietzsche wanted people to have power over other people, he would be supporting a state in essence. There's a whole chapter in Thus Spoke Zarathustra about the state. I suggest you actually read some of his books.
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dyingdreams
I'm not talking quotes and oneliners, read the books. He can "support anything" only when taken out of context.
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dyingdreams
You misunderstood him then. There's more than one type of anarchist; at its core the Ubermensch is an anarchist in the sense of setting his own standards, but that doesn't mean he strives after chaos. Quite the contrary. The anarchist Nietzsche meant as despicable was one that defines anarchy as equality and strives for it out of weakness; in other words anarchy with socialist connotations.
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Neantise Nietzsche loathed anarchists, the_nose. He compared them to Christians in The Antichrist and called them "dogs" in Beyond Good and Evil.
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misanthropians Anti-Christ
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johntardsbaby66
Nietzsche opposed nationalism, the state, etc. he also opposed religion, and does refer to Jesus as a "Jew" and a "Hebrew" when he criticizes religion... I'm sure he hated Judaism just as much as he hated Christianity, the State, Socialism, etc.
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ondskaptkrieg A really wonderful drama film indeed, even though it kind of shatters the reality. Impressed by Armand Assante's acting and the prophet scene about Zarathustra.
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sarvam_dukha "Was ist also Wahrheit? Ein bewegliches Heer von Metaphern, Metonymien, Anthropomorphismen"
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assaults Is there a place for peace, weakness, or mercy in this world? Noooo! Next Chapter: Ayn Rand and why all losers should die.
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flisu @fkln I think Nietzsche was astonished how this small, strange nation (Jews) with sick religions is so strong. Another thing is in his sympathies. In this philosophy there is no place for peace, weakness, and mercy, thats why nazism and satanism (oposite to christianity) use his thinking.
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dyingdreams
Not saying that Nietzsche was an anti-semite by a long shot, that's mostly said by people who have never read one letter he wrote, but I wouldn't exactly go about claiming his adoration for Jews either. I don't see any problems with that.
