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Favorite kind-of-philosophical book (not Nietzsches)

 
    • Lietvyris schrieb...
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    • 11. Mär. 2009, 19:19

    Favorite kind-of-philosophical book (not Nietzsches)

    What's worth reading beyond the philosophy of Nietzsche? Write some things I should to know about the culture, religion, psychology or psychiatry?


    Now I'm reading "Apollo and Dionyzos" by A. Raynd, it's help to understand what Nietzsche wrote about thes two gods.

    • Pk_Henry schrieb...
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    • 20. Mär. 2009, 17:47

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    Well...i've graduated in Philosophy so its hard to chose one.
    There's a lot more than Nietzsche to read...His main thesis 'The Death Of God' is a interpretation of Ludwig Feuerbach's "The essence of christianity".
    Soren kierkegaard achieved similar conclusions in his work.
    more recently, in the XXth century we have Husserl's 'Cartesian Meditations' (a fundamental book for the last century philosophy). Also Bertrand Russel's "the analysis of mind' if you want a more introduction book to philosophy try "The Problems of Philosophy".

    In France in the 60's you have:
    Albert camus
    Jean-Paul sartre
    Georges Battaille

    all Nietzsches influenced.
    later you have Michel Foucault, Deleuze, also both Nietzsche influenced.

    In Germany:

    Karl Jaspers would be the most relevant after Husserl.
    Heiddeger, although a convicted nazi in early 30's, has hugely masterpieces in the matter of metaphisics.

    You also have more recently Nozick's reflections. Quine's "Two Dogmas of Empiricism", Thomas Nagel, Simon Blackburn, etc. etc.
    if you want more specific elements ask. :)))

    Life has to be given a meaning because of the obvious fact that it has no meaning.
    • Lietvyris schrieb...
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    • 20. Mär. 2009, 22:29
    I remember I read somewhere Freud basis his concept of sexual urge on Nietzsche's will to power. But personally i think this conception is closer to Schopenhauer conception of urge. Propably reading theirs works is what I'm looking for.

    (I don't know how this concepts eg urgery are named in English, I wrote the closer version to this what are in my language, but I think we understand yourselfs :))

    Thanks!

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 9. Apr. 2009, 11:15
    The Works of Heinz von Förster.

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 18. Jul. 2009, 20:28
    Albert Camus - "The Myth of Sisyphus"
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus

  • Emil Cioran - Pe Culmile Disperarii. I guess " On The Heights Of Desperation" in English or something like that, there must be a translated version somewhere I think.

    Disectie la broaste!
  • Plato - The Republic
    Albert Camus - The Myth of Sisyphus
    George Berkeley - Three Dialogues Between Hylas and Philonous
    Soren Kierkegaard - Either/Or, Fear and Trembling
    I also suggest you read Sartre although personally I believe he's full of shit, same view towards Hegel, a little less so than Sartre however.

    Long walks at night--
    that's what good for the soul:
    peeking into windows
    watching tired housewives
    trying to fight off
    their beer-maddened husbands.
    -And the Moon and the Stars and the World, by Charles Bukowski.
  • Schopenhauer - The World as Will and Representation

    • HoloHoax schrieb...
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    • 6. Okt. 2009, 20:55

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    Bearbeitet von hjbardenhagen am 19. Dez. 2010, 8:47
  • Jiddu Krishnamurti - All.



    Also Schopenhauer, Wittgenstein, Camus, Cioran and Deleuze.

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 19. Jan. 2010, 18:57
    Nice books you people reed... gonna check them out!!!

    • Lietvyris schrieb...
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    • 19. Jan. 2010, 22:21
    Julius Evola works...
    Epiktet - Encheiridion
    Unabomber Manifesto
    Wlodzimierz Pawluczuk expositions ;)
    Erich Fromm - About Art of Love
    Tomasz Szlendak - Strach przed przemocą (Fear against violence), only in polish language...

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    • 31. Jan. 2010, 20:43
    Heidegger- On Being and Time
    Heidegger - The question concerning Technology
    Giambattista Vico - New Science
    Oswald Spengler - The Decline of the West [Best Nietzsche / Goethe Inspired book EVER).
    Julius Evola - Ride the Tiger / Revolt Against the Modern World / The Metaphysics of War - haven't read anything else by him, but his writings are extremely interesting and profound.
    Plato - the Republic
    Goethe - Faust [Best play/book in history along with Nietzsche books, encompasses a vast amount of human meditations and ideation].
    Michel Foucault - The Archaeology of Knowledge.

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 1. Mai. 2010, 15:13
    i didn't read much of philosophy but i could recommend you: emil cioran-twilight of thoughts( Amurgul gandurilor), Emil cioran- Saints and tears (Lacrimi si sfinti), Immanuel kant- Crtics of pure reason and Arthur Schopenhauer

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    • Eywin schrieb...
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    • 5. Mai. 2010, 22:56
    Max Stirner - Der Einzige und sein Eigentum (The Ego and Its Own)

    Everyone who's into Nietzsche should read Stirner's book.

    • exentaser schrieb...
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    • 5. Dez. 2010, 18:32
    Well Schopenhauer is really important for the Irrationalism as a main philosophy in 19-th century. The "Reason" or the logos philosophy starts it's degradation with Schopenhauer (in other opinions with Hegel) - the new Transcendent - is not the Reason, but The Will and in Schopenhauer's philosophy the Absolute Will. It's actually in Schopenhauer's philosophy the beginning of what Nietzsche is about to destroy.
    The most interesting thing about Schopenhauer is that he uses the tools of rationalism to create something so irrational. He creates the world as representation and than makes that world only a slave of the great and unknown Will, after than he just kills that Will - and went from rational creation of the world to a irrational Transcendent and of course Buddhistical end - Nothing as a result of the destruction of the Will.
    That is why Nietzsche takes Schopenhauer's idea but only to make The will something that is creative and human - not transcendental, but will to might (Wille zur Macht) that is for the strongest earthy beings.
    The philosophy of 19-th century and mainly Schopenhauer's and Nietzsche's is the end of Absolute philosophy, the end of 27 century of logos philosophy and that is in one period that is less that 100 years - only two people are needed. Schopenhauer starts it and Nietzsche with the hammer just destroys everything - 27 century of thinking to make a turn in whole history, to grab the human being that is flying somewhere and waiting for the God's grace and throw it so hard down on Earth - that's why he is the biggest humanist of all times.
    I can recommend to everyone the dissertation of Schopenhauer "On the Fourfold principle of sufficient reason" because that is where he starts to create the world as representation and it's main lows, that "The world as will and representation" -1, 2 - because that's where the magic happens ;) in the first one we have - creation and destruction - all in one ;).
    And after that I can recommend Kierkegaard also his dissertation on the irony.
    May be Jean-Paul Sartre from existentialism and something new of course - Derrida and the Dialogical philosphy is influenced by irrationalism :)

    "Schreiben wollte ich immer, versuchte es schon früh, fand aber die Worte erst später" H. Böll, 1958, Über mich selbst, s.339
    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 11. Jan. 2011, 23:52
    I just want to say empirist philosopher like Hume, then, Kierkegaard, Schopenhauer, and Camus.. I've studied them. it was very interesting. Notably, relationship between Kierkegaard and Camus..
    The will is important in my mind. It is something about energy in forces and instinct.
    But there is one thing we don't have to forget : All these philosophists were linked to the History. Even if they anticipate a lot of things.
    Shopenhauer's theory at the beginning were not read by people. After 1870's war, people found something in his Nihilism.
    I prefere Nietzsche or Camus.. Because they tried to find a way to exceed nihilism.

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 19. Jan. 2011, 4:19
    The Social Contract

  • My fave philosophy book besides Niezsche :

    Lucretius - De Rerum Natura (On the nature of things)
    written in about 100-200 A.D

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