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Favourite Quote of or about Nietzsche?

 
    • Wxnzxn schrieb...
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    • 10. Dez. 2008, 9:42

    Favourite Quote of or about Nietzsche?

    Of course everyone knows the classic, fitting for last.fm

    "Without music life would have been a mistake" ("Ohne Musik wäre das Leben ein Irrtum")

    I really don't like it that much, because nowadays every other wannabe intellectual likes to quote it to show music is awesome.

    If I had to choose one of Nietzsche, I'd probably go with

    "Morality is a matter of taste."(I have to admit I can't quote it directly right now, it's from one of his notebooks and quoted roughly here)

    But I have to say, my favourite quote is not even from Nietzsche himself, but a quote about Nietzsche:

    "A manipulator is the one who interprets Nietzsche, by quoting Nietzsche. [...] In the mine that is this thinker, every ore can be found: Nietzsche has said everything and the opposite of everything."
    ("Ein Fälscher ist, wer Nietzsche interpretiert, indem er Zitate aus ihm benutzt. […] Im Bergwerk dieses Denkers ist jedes Metall zu finden: Nietzsche hat alles gesagt und das Gegenteil von allem.")

    (Giorgio Colli in "Nach Nietzsche" [After Nietzsche], original in Italian)

    I really like it, because this is exactly how I feel about Nietzsche, and how he is often used today, and how he was used throughout history. Every other ideology, movement and philosopher has used parts of Nietzsche's work, but every time you do so, you make a mistake. Nietzsche didn't do his writings to serve ideologies and moral, but to challenge them, and he wanted man to overcome this habit and think for themselves.

    At least that's my take on it, I'd like to hear from everyone here their favourite quotes, some phrases from or about Nietzsche that they find meaningful for themselves.

    (Above translations by me, I don't know how they were "officially" translated)


    Die Niveaumangel
    (Be) too weird to live, too rare to die(!)
    • HipofizE schrieb...
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    • 21. Dez. 2008, 17:42
    I would not know what the spirit of a philosopher might wish more to be than a good dance

    and

    'Was that life' I want to say to death. 'Well then, One More Time!'

    • Marcolf schrieb...
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    • 30. Dez. 2008, 23:05

    On the future of our educational institutions (1872)

    Our educational institutions " block the slow maturation of the individual, the patient formation of the self - that should be the finality of every culture - demanding a rapid formation so as to have efficient employees and docile students at their service, youngsters that will learn how to earn money rapidly. But this is not all. When they demand a more profound education, allowing for in-depth specialization, they do so in order to make even more money. But this is not all. This indecorous haste leads students, at an age when they are not mature enough to ask themselves which profession they should pursue, to make bad choices."

  • I cannot believe in a God that wants to be praised all the time.

    One of my all time favourites.

    And a garage made from the souls of little children?
    • bardism schrieb...
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    • 12. Jan. 2009, 0:50
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."

    or

    "Without music life would have been a mistake"

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 16. Jan. 2009, 4:47
    “I still live, I still think: I still have to live, for I still have to think.”

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 3. Feb. 2009, 1:21
    ".. women want to destroy you"

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 19. Feb. 2009, 23:20
    mygga_med_stil pisze:
    I cannot believe in a God that wants to be praised all the time.

    One of my all time favourites.


    Yeah - that one is great. ^^

  • "Which is it? Is man only God's mistake or God only man's mistake?--"

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 25. Apr. 2009, 21:22
    'there was only one Christian and he died on the cross' ....

    • zupreem schrieb...
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    • 5. Mai. 2009, 19:38
    It is always consoling to think of suicide: in that way one gets through many a bad night.

    • fkln schrieb...
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    • 4. Jun. 2009, 20:59
    “I don’t like him.”—Why?—“I am not equal to him.”—Has any human being ever answered this way?

    • zupreem schrieb...
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    • 20. Jun. 2009, 18:28
    Do not make equal what is unequal.

    • rorenzu schrieb...
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    • 3. Jul. 2009, 7:53
    "Plato ist langweilig" (Plato is boring) - in Götzen-Dämmerung(1889)

    "Faith and senses are more discerning than lenses or learning."
    • Sagane schrieb...
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    • 8. Jul. 2009, 7:59
    One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star.

  • "Man is the cruelest animal. At tragedies, bullfights, and crucifixions he has so far felt best on earth; and when he invented hell for himself, behold, that was his very heaven."
    Sad but true.

    Disectie la broaste!
  • 'Was that life' I want to say to death. 'Well then, One More Time!'

  • "Through music the passions enjoy themselves"

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 29. Sep. 2009, 18:56
    No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

  • After coming into contact with a religious man I always feel I must wash my hands.

    Art is the proper task of life.

    Long walks at night--
    that's what good for the soul:
    peeking into windows
    watching tired housewives
    trying to fight off
    their beer-maddened husbands.
    -And the Moon and the Stars and the World, by Charles Bukowski.
  • Re: Favourite Quote of or about Nietzsche?

    Wxnzxn said:
    quote about Nietzsche:

    "A manipulator is the one who interprets Nietzsche, by quoting Nietzsche. [...] In the mine that is this thinker, every ore can be found: Nietzsche has said everything and the opposite of everything."

    [...] this is exactly how I feel about Nietzsche, and how he is often used today, and how he was used throughout history. Every other ideology, movement and philosopher has used parts of Nietzsche's work, but every time you do so, you make a mistake. Nietzsche didn't do his writings to serve ideologies and moral, but to challenge them, and he wanted man to overcome this habit and think for themselves.


    I don't know whether I fully agree with that view.

    Granted, he's been used for just about any cause imaginable but the question is not "has he been used for everything" but rather has he "been used correctly". I think that's a very different concept entirely, and I for one do not subscribe to the view that he can be used for anything or that he wasn't formulating and promoting a specific moral agenda. The problem is that many people who read his books (if they read them at all) and quotes only read that which suits them and leave out the context or added remarks; Nazi ideologists in particular were pretty skilled at this kind of thing and most famous for it but other collectivistic theorists didn't really shy away from it any less.

    There's actually a quote by Nietzsche himself somewhere where he mocks the idea that he has been used for just about anything while the people who use his sayings mostly don't grasp their meaning. He has denounced Socialism on a variety of occassions; and how could he not when one understands what he tried to say.

    In this regard a different quote about Nietzsche:

    "[Sadly], his acute social criticism, and his ability to sniff the “will to belief” behind all ordinary beliefs and attitudes, have endeared him to radical critics of Western society, and caused him to be conscripted to secular causes – feminism, socialism, egalitarianism, “multiculturalism” – which he himself would have greeted with cavernous laughter."

    More on this subject can be found here:

    Introudction to Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

    Enjoy :)

    Anti-Socialism
    To each his own.
  • All religions bear traces of the fact that they aroused during the intellectual immaturity of the human race.'
    Friedrich Nietzsche

    "All people bear traces of the fact that they aroused during my intellectual immaturity."
    God.

    • Herr_Amn schrieb...
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    • 22. Nov. 2009, 17:42
    "To become what one is, one must not have the faintest idea what one is." - Ecce Homo

    "I would only believe in a God that knows how to dance."

    ""Now I die and vanish… the soul is as immortal as the body. But the knot of causes in which I am entangled recurs and will create me again. I myself belong to the causes of eternal recurrence. I come again, with this sun, with this earth, with this eagle, with this serpent – not to a new life or a better life or a similar life: I come back eternally to this same, selfsame life, in what is greatest as in what is smallest, to teach again the eternal recurrence of all things…" - Thus Spoke Zarathustra

  • "To live is to suffer, to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering..."

  • some humor
    "God is dead" ~Nietzsche before 25. VIII 1900
    "Nietzsche is dead" ~God after 25. VIII 1900


    but I also like
    Young people love what is interesting and odd, no matter how true or false it is. More mature minds love what is interesting and odd about truth. Fully mature intellects, finally, love truth, even when it appears plain and simple, boring to the ordinary person; for they have noticed that truth tends to reveal its highest wisdom in the guise of simplicity.

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