• Depression

    Hello, I just joined.
    I am reading through all the threads and realize that half the people here have no clue about suicide and depression.
    Half are looking for attention and others seem bored.

    What the fuck? Does anyone have an idea what is feels like to live with almost constant depression? Having to constantly resist suicidal tendencies? How can I explain to you about the world and how much bullshit I see and experience in it? Will you understand?

    Sometimes life around me seems like a play, a movie. (The Matrix made sense to me, lol) bullshit.
    I look at politics, money laws and I look at strings on a puppet.
    Religion is is the answer to the ignorant but somehow I manage to see right through it. Mind wash.

    Friend are only friends because they have self interest.

    I have only one goal and that is to achieve happiness. I thought it is simple.

    I am affraid to die unhappy but I seem to be too unhappy to live. Does that make any sense?

    I am probably wasting my time here but it was good to write and get it off my chest, goodbye.

    I trust at least one person will understand what I am saying.

    • Nickzilla schrieb...
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    • 31. Jan. 2007, 13:47
    More people will get it than you think. It's just that sitting around discussing depression in depth is even more depressing, even if that is the theme of the group.

  • I understand. I suppose the topic has been discussed to death.
    I just find that talking helps. I have also find that depressed/suicidal people have similiar world or life views. Could it be a collective memory?

    Even when I am happy I never forget that everything is fake.

    I alwyas though I was in control of life and that you make your own realities, but trust me it is not the case.

    I got nailed to the cross and will now stay there until I die and there is no way out. I can not describe you my circumstances but hopefully someone here will know exactly what I am talking about and be able to communicated by not saying too much.

    • dnobse schrieb...
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    • 19. Feb. 2007, 19:15
    The Matrix made a whole lot of sense to me too.

    And I feel like talking about depression (with other people who understand what you're talking about) helps, just as long as you talk about the right things. It's just really frustrating to be living in a world full of people who don't understand it and have never experienced it. It makes me feel even worse.

    Of course, it seems like every time people talk about it on Last.fm, they start talking about how much they hate things and all their negative feelings, and that really isn't what we should be talking about if we are to have a productive conversation about depression.

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 10. Mär. 2007, 15:00
    "Friend are only friends because they have self interest." Having a friend means you have a symbiotic relationship... Both of you benefit from it. Only if you are with friends, family or a lover you can feel all those great emotions, somewhere deep down inside you... no money, no book, no music, no movie, no food, no drugs, nothing else can bring that out of you. Those things just bring short term emotional happiness and those things are 100x better if you can share them with friends (ok, not drugs..).

    Depression is a horrible thing, I have watched people around me go through it my whole life... my parents, my friends, a girl I'm in love with... And it is very complicated, different in every person but seems to share a lot in common too.

    If you don't want to live like that anymore I would strongly recommend the following:

    1.) Try to talk about your condition with your family, or friends... just anyone you can trust. Maybe its your grandma that will listen, but you don't even think of that.

    2.) Try to seek professional help. A lot of people are afraid of talking to a psychologist (do not go to a psychiatrist, psychologists are way better with helping people) for various reasons. These are people that dedicated their lives and got a Philosophy or Psychology diploma and studied depression for a lot of years... And they can probably help you. There is nothing to be ashamed of and nothing scary if you talk to a psychologist. He/She might seem like a stranger at first but he/she can soon become the person you trust the most.

    3.) Don't isolate yourself, don't hate all the people, don't say you don't need friends...we all do. By doing that you will just damage yourself emotionally... Try to seek out new friends all the time, try joining some group activities like different sports, classes or something... you have to start to look to have people in your lives, and start looking around you, many people feel lonely and need friends too. And you must seek out good people, that will not hurt you...

    4.) Know, that you are not the only person that feels that way. There are hundreds of thousands people going through feelings as bad as yours. Psychologist may take you to a group therapy where you can meet people just like you and finally talk to somebody that know, what you really feel inside... this can help a lot.

    What I wrote may not have helped you... but a talk with a psychologist will. Problems will not disappear in a day, will probably take months or even years... but you can feel happy again!

  • I def. know what its like to be depressed and want to kill yourself---I have been anorexic,when my daughter was a baby,,,I have lived with a verbally abusive alcholic husband(got rid of him)why am I still depressed dont know--people think you take a pill and you are all better but your not----like the saying goes
    "LIFE SUCKS AND THEN YOU DIE"

    • semeru schrieb...
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    • 1. Jun. 2007, 22:52
    springbean said:
    (...)I have only one goal and that is to achieve happiness. I thought it is simple.

    I am affraid to die unhappy but I seem to be too unhappy to live. Does that make any sense?

    (...)

    I trust at least one person will understand what I am saying.


    It makes a lot of sense to me. Really. I feel the very same way.

    Seems you found - and definitely more than one.

    • gnrmcr schrieb...
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    • 18. Sep. 2007, 3:03
    I have only one goal and that is to achieve happiness. I thought it is simple.

    That's exactly me. My only goal (because I never try anyway, so I don't have goals...). But while I used to know what I needed to become happy, now it seems there's nothing left to make me happy exept for a time-machine.

    4.) Know, that you are not the only person that feels that way. There are hundreds of thousands people going through feelings as bad as yours. Psychologist may take you to a group therapy where you can meet people just like you and finally talk to somebody that know, what you really feel inside... this can help a lot.

    Ok, but I don't want to go to a psychologist & I don't know anyone that has depression.I can see that there're a lot of people feeling the same on the inernet but noone in real life...

  • springbean said:
    Even when I am happy I never forget that everything is fake.

    Oh shit!
    Me too!
    Either fake, or transient.

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 5. Feb. 2008, 19:49
    Guys, I've been there, I know how it feels. I've been with the whole 'self-harming' thing.I tried to think in a "positive" way and it didn't work. I went to a shrink.. it didn't work. I took pills (actually i still take them) but that doesn't mean that I'll be fine with just that. And you know why all those things didn't work? Because i really didn't want to. It was like being in love with this pain, sorrow, sadness whatever. I did everything I could to make life miserable, so I could finally go and kill myself. I know it feels like nothing can help, but if you're stuck here, and you don't want to be here, you can at least try. Yes once more. I tried so many times that I got tired... I felt happy but just for a moment... and then it went away to fast! And the whole pills thing... sometimes I feel like I'm living a fake, because without the pills I'd definitely be crying over some current problem. I don't regret any of the things I've done to try to get better, I didn't want to tell my parents and they finally found out because of my school. It was worse.. believe me. I know it feels like you're the only one.. like you're going crazy.. like there's nothing else to do. But at least you can try, like i'm doing it right now :)

    And for the people who says "just go away.. kill yourselves"

    God... is not that easy. When I thought about it, I thought about my family, I thought how the hell am i gonna do it? What if I wait for things to get worse?.
    And anyway does it really do any harm these people? as long as they're now cutting themselves in front of you or doing something stupid to get attention and telling everyone.

    I'm talking just about how i feel about this.
    Hope this somehow helps.

  • last year around nov my depression stop but now im single and can never be loved after what i did to my old bf

    DEPRESSION SUCKS AND WHEN IT GOES AWAY LIFE STILL SUCKS


  • Re: Depression

    Loveiswhite sagte:
    Guys, I've been there, I know how it feels. And you know why all those things didn't work? Because i really didn't want to. It was like being in love with this pain, sorrow, sadness whatever.


    I get you. You and springbean.
    As far as you're concerned EvermoreRocks you're (most likely) only going through puberty. Moderate episodes of depression simply are a part of growing up. You're only 16! Everyone you're age is in a pretty pissy mood. It'll get better. I really don't think you've got a severe depressive disorder.

    Depression is: having to persuade yourself to every step (this hipocrytical society forces you) to make,to be desperate to become schizophrenic so you can live in you r own world (Don Konkey is amazing), not sleeping for weeks -with insomnia you're always awake but never really..it's constant daze..makes me feel like I'm going crazy, loss of interest in pretty much everything,you also loose the ability to concentrate on anything (that's why this text is so chaotic, sorry I'm sick)...if you can still wine about having lost your bf you're still in pretty good shape.
    My, and I'm sure loveiswhite's and springbeans thoughts are much more profound than this. You've probably never even heard the term Existentialism.
    That's what I consider myself...if I had to pick soulmates I would say: Albert Camus, Kurt Cobain, Sasha Grey and Tyler Durden (the order doesn't matter, they are all equally important).

    Most importantly though I have to agree with you loveiswhite: It's the best drug I've ever had and I don't want to get rid of it. The only problem is, since it's like a drug, you need to increase the dosage all the time in order to get the same feel.

  • Depression

    Depression changed me deeply, now the only thing I can say about me is that I'm most likely a "Monster" than a simple almost 21 year old girl. Depression changes you physically, you stand hours in front of the mirror and you cannot recognize the one you used to be, there're just those empty eyes gazing at you. It's like you've been replace by an alien organism, you cannot take back anymore your "innocence": everyday becomes the "next last day", cynicism and bitterness replace anything else. Everything loses meaning, and you will be always the most disappointed one about your situation; you'll always blame yourself of “being weak", of not being able to live in the "real world", of being a total inept.

    Quimera

    And crawling on the planet's face,
    some insects called the human race,
    lost in Time and lost in Space and meaning
    • aibom schrieb...
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    • 25. Mai. 2008, 5:57

    Re: Depression

    springbean said:
    Friend are only friends because they have self interest.

    Everyone is self interested to a degree.
    But we humans do feel a large degree of empathy toward other human. Much of it not false for the sake of public image.

    Sometimes it becomes a self interest, to be interested in someone else. So people complete fuck over their own lives to help someone else they care about.

    When someone else become a self interest, that is true love and caring.
    For instance, a person buys a music cd, movie, or video game out of self interest. For pleasure. Owning this has nothing to do with their own bodily health, but it makes them feel good to own and play it.

    Similarly, with people it can become a self interest to want to see someone alive and well. Because it's in their self interest to see them alive and happy. It makes the person happy to see that other person they have affection toward happy, and therefore, their action to make that other person happy is a form of self interest.

    This is called "indirect self-interest". It's quite common actually.



  • Re: Depression

    springbean said:
    Hello, I just joined.
    I am reading through all the threads and realize that half the people here have no clue about suicide and depression.
    Half are looking for attention and others seem bored.

    What the fuck? Does anyone have an idea what is feels like to live with almost constant depression? Having to constantly resist suicidal tendencies? How can I explain to you about the world and how much bullshit I see and experience in it? Will you understand?

    Sometimes life around me seems like a play, a movie. (The Matrix made sense to me, lol) bullshit.
    I look at politics, money laws and I look at strings on a puppet.
    Religion is is the answer to the ignorant but somehow I manage to see right through it. Mind wash.

    Friend are only friends because they have self interest.

    I have only one goal and that is to achieve happiness. I thought it is simple.

    I am affraid to die unhappy but I seem to be too unhappy to live. Does that make any sense?

    I am probably wasting my time here but it was good to write and get it off my chest, goodbye.

    I trust at least one person will understand what I am saying.


    You just spoke for me...I feel you

    what
    kryptonitewhite@hotmail.com
    it only hurts when i breathe
    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 3. Sep. 2008, 21:34
    ehhhhhhhh

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 4. Sep. 2008, 22:37
    you don't get him you're not one of his people


    I speak for the people getting entirely too comfortable who have only one goal et cetera


    Did you know friends are only friends because of self-interest?
    It's true. Everyone is self-interested to a degree


    look at the quality of thoughts occurring
    irreconcilable contradictions of existence

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 8. Sep. 2008, 21:00
    my ehhhhh was: thread too tl;dr for a depressed reader; my other contributions would just have been too depressing for the membership but i'll shoot with one response

    relying on friends for your happiness is setting yourself up for disappointment. they get lives. learn to be happy in and with yourself. or just take them for what they are but don't expect too much. etc

    maybe all my friends suck but humans over the age of.. i dunno.. 20 don't do friends, they just occupy the time between and enable er "romantic" relationships. in most cases. it's like true love innit

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 8. Sep. 2008, 23:01
    thought provoking response


    why would you do that man? you're a skilled comedian
    when I'm not depressive in my own right I'd engage with you on this
    but until then the internet's for entertainment and you're a talking spider

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 9. Sep. 2008, 6:11
    do what man? o_O

    nah i only make the funnies 50% the time, usually i'm moaning or arguing about something or other it keeps me svelte

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 9. Sep. 2008, 15:13
    I confess I try to avoid you in general discussions
    and LAST.FM ISN'T WORKING threads

    • [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
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    • 25. Sep. 2008, 19:49

    • zibar schrieb...
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    • 20. Jul. 2009, 22:23

    Re: Depression

    springbean said:

    Religion is is the answer to the ignorant but somehow I manage to see right through it. Mind wash.

    I have only one goal and that is to achieve happiness. I thought it is simple.


    I agree fully with what you say and in particular i like your statement on religion as i too feel that religion is complete and utter nonsense. Sometimes i would love to give into religion however i cant, i know religion would take some of my misery, hatred and give me hope and peace. As religious people believe god will help them in times of trouble and therefore they become confident when life takes a shit on them. another thing about religion is this god judges you when you die and you must atone for your sins when you die so when people do you wrong you can laugh because you believe in hell. However if your atheist you don't believe in squat.

    The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, FML and everyone in it.




    • maxpowrr3 schrieb...
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    • 8. Sep. 2010, 8:52

    new here

    hey i have been reading some of your posts and only have this to say i see the world the same as most of you in that our laws and polotics beeing a joke and that most ppl just flow through life not realizig what it really mean ppl in the age are self centered and only want to do gain more (of everything) i to am depressed i have been for 8 years iv pushed my body to the limits with drugs and booze only to find myself in a worse spot i hate myself and everyone around me and have lied to everyone (family and all) the entire time i found happyness once in the form of a lover for three years but now realize that reling on her to gain my happyness was just the same as the drugs that i do i have tryed to take my life more then once but it only ends the same with a sudden jolt of wtf this wont bring me what i want so now i float in and out of reality hoping that the answer will come that i will be happy one day the point of all this is that some times there is no relying on others there is and has bee lots of times when i have sought help but nothing comes from it high payed psychologist can only help you if you are not truly depressed for those like me and to explain myself i want to die but i want to die only after i found the perpouse of my exsistance but for those like me you can only hope that your spirit is stronger then your will and to keep searching for your goals to never let your dreams fade i know that true happynes only comes from within your self but i am unable to fine a reason for happynes or life i only exsist ad trust me to exsist without meeig or reso is the worst thing to happen to someonei came to this site hoping to find meening in my life to find someone that understands the pain of lifelessness and that cloud of emptyness i hope there is someone here that can help me or atleast knows how i feel

  • NO ONE LIKES A PITY PARTY GUYS.
    Honestly i will never get these "NO i'm MORE DEPRESSED" competitions you always see online. Aren't you guys ashamed? CAUSE I MEAN YOU KNOW, being deathly ashamed of the way you feel and not wanting to tell anyone even if they can help you is a big part of depression.

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