Most bashed and bullied bands ...?

KingsAndQueen said:.

Since Amy Winehouse's death there's lot of inrespectful trolls who claim her to be a talentless person who deserves to go to hell.

(gasp) That's horrible! I never cared for her music but that is just WRONG.

KingsAndQueen said:.

Since Amy Winehouse's death there's lot of inrespectful trolls who claim her to be a talentless person who deserves to go to hell.

That's ridiculous, im not a fan nor i have really heard (much) about her yet people do this? When their heroes die do they get peeved when someone is mocking their hero? Sometimes i wonder about people. People reacted differently with Micheal Jackson when he died (at least from my perspective).

I think that happens with a lot of artists who pass. Aaliyah gets the same thing and she's been gone for 10 years now. There's even a troll on YouTube that goes on every Aaliyah video to spread his crap.

Example:
"Who the heck would witness R.Kelly,Damon Dash,and Jay-Z rock Aaliyah's boat.?I wouldnt want to be one of the sailors cause she a dirty skank,plus she looks like a man,her ugly self.You probaly look like Aaliyah ugly self,dirty whores.Rest in fire Aaliyah.BURN"

Doesn't deserve to be purple. Yeah, I don't know what is wrong with people. If you didn't like someone's music when they were alive, fine. Move on and let those who loved them appreciate the time they had to make music. Makes me sad.

Don't know if this counts but on the Chuck Berry's page everyone there bashes Elvis Presley.
Example: "Fuck Elvis... Chuck Berry is the real king. [22]"

I'm going to play Devil's advocate a bit here.

I think it's just as wrong for people to go gaga over an artist just because they died. After Winehouse's death there was more attention to her on the news than about the Norway Terrorist Attack. And suddenly everyone who was a casual listener becomes a mega fan, those who didn't care for her music became haters, and the middle ground gets thrust to one side or the other. The same thing happened with MJ.

I don't mind the huge fans, family, friends, etc... mourning thats perfectly understandable. But it's when the casual listener, the people who prior to the death wouldn't consider themselves big fans, buying all the albums, going to concerts, buying posters, etc... suddenly are so distraught over the death and act like the artist was the best thing ever. People being fake fans in order to try and relate to events on the news.

The disrespectful haters are out of line, but the casual listener transformed to mega fan draw the haters out. And because the new mega fans are so intense, the haters likewise become just as intense but in the opposite direction.

I didn't care for either MJ or Amy Winehouse prior to their death, and when they died, I still didn't care for them. Your opinion of an artist and how much you enjoy there music shouldn't change just because they die.

DarkMage530 said:
I'm going to play Devil's advocate a bit here.

I think it's just as wrong for people to go gaga over an artist just because they died. After Winehouse's death there was more attention to her on the news than about the Norway Terrorist Attack. And suddenly everyone who was a casual listener becomes a mega fan, those who didn't care for her music became haters, and the middle ground gets thrust to one side or the other. The same thing happened with MJ.

I don't mind the huge fans, family, friends, etc... mourning thats perfectly understandable. But it's when the casual listener, the people who prior to the death wouldn't consider themselves big fans, buying all the albums, going to concerts, buying posters, etc... suddenly are so distraught over the death and act like the artist was the best thing ever. People being fake fans in order to try and relate to events on the news.

The disrespectful haters are out of line, but the casual listener transformed to mega fan draw the haters out. And because the new mega fans are so intense, the haters likewise become just as intense but in the opposite direction.

I didn't care for either MJ or Amy Winehouse prior to their death, and when they died, I still didn't care for them. Your opinion of an artist and how much you enjoy there music shouldn't change just because they die.

I pretty much agree with you! I'm not sure if the MJ comparision fits the same mold, he left an indelible mark on the wests cultural mindset long before he died. One of those iconic people are expected to be more than human - deified almost. Its quite a nebulous categorary admittedly but everyone knows the examples. England has its Princess Dianas and Myra Hindleys alike.

Thats the strangest thing about celebrity. In Europe and America spirituality and cultural identity are effectively sidelined, second in favor to the cult of spectacle and novelty. Famous people function as our saints and martyrs - but then i'm hardly saying anything new i'm sure you all familiar with this trope.

I thought the coincidental timing of Amy's death and the events in Norway was unfortunate. A great many people simply wouldn't regard the latter, yet I find it odd that people relate to anyone like Amy Winehouse. I'm not merely citing lifestyle differences - frankly my habit of "thinking sideways" means I don't get why someone would feel so strongly about a single individual they themselves aren't personally attached to.

Amy was just human wasn't she? Is a person you know of but haven't met just as much a stranger as one you've never heard of? I believe (despite the strong case against it) that none of us, barring close friends and family, can ever really relate to a celebrity on anything other than an abstract level.

Rant over, heres some bands I feel get a lot of unfair schtick...

Death in June: Whatever you do never make music about European culture and politics. The Punk Police are trained to spot intelligent dialogue on the subject and immediately blitkrieg the fuck out of it with drama and hysterics.
Genocide Lolita: Amusingly people do get quite cross with GL. Partly because of the po' faced right-wing leanings. I'm about 65% sure its a massive joke and that his fiancee is Jewish.
Sol Invictus: Tony Wakeford briefly became a member of the British National Front in his youth (as did many young people angry with Englands economic and cultural state) but he later left after becoming disillusioned with right-wing politics, realizing that an organization full of racist thugs wasn't something he wanted any part of, remarking that it was "probably the worse decision of my life and one I very much regret".
Whitehouse: Not surprising, considering usage of themes like child abuse and pedophilia, plus the bands penchant for using artwork by Tom Brown. People don't like to dwell on the more unpleasant aspects of human sexuality.
Wolf Eyes: Bog standard music fans don't like the fact they make noise music, yet they are too mainstream and populist for many in the noise scene to embrace. Predominantly because they made the "shocking" decision to release the album Burned Mind on Sub Pop Records.

I believe she said she was punk, but then later clarified she meant it in the sense of "I'm tough and a badass," not in the sense of "I sing the style of music known as punk rock."

Uh yeah Avril gets bashed a lot. I have to say, I don't like the fact that she changed. I think she was a million times better before her third album. And loads of people say that she "just grew up". But I don't see how. I mean, the whole spoilt pop princess thing? I fail to see how that's any more grown up than the moody punk teenager thing. It seems less grown-up, if anything. Her songs seem like they'd appeal to a younger audience. I feel slightly stupid listening to The Best Damn Thing. And even the way she sings. She sounds younger now, like she's trying to sing all cutesy. Argh. Annoys me so much.

Yeah, she is a good singer, does sing live and everything. But ugh, I am going to be forever annoyed at her.