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Logical Integrity

 
    • HK_Metal schrieb...
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    • 13. Apr. 2011, 5:53

    Logical Integrity

    I've spent the better half of the past six months arguing with allot of Anarcho-Syndicalists/Communists/Socialists/primitivists, mutualists, the whole lot.

    Very recently on the Facebook page; Anarchism, there was a stalinistic purge of everyone who spoke anything dissenting towards Anarcho-Communism which was viewed by the majority of people to be "True Anarchy."

    Going back on an alternate account, I posted a comment challenging the logical integrity of their criticism towards Anarcho-Capitalism, and their beliefs that Capitalism is inherently hierarchical. (Anarchy SUPPOSEDLY being against all forms of coercive hierarchy)

    Of course, it was deleted before any response could be given. How hypocritical.

    I figured I'd come back here :)))

    First off, what are your opinions on Anarcho-Syndicalism? Your opinions on the syndicalists in post-civil war spain? The communists that eventually ran them out?

    The Questions
    If all human conditions are perceived differently, how then is capitalism objectively hierarchical? If you are opposed to capitalism because it is a coercive hierarchy (among other reasons), do you not presuppose the objectivity of your parameters of what is hierarchical? Is it not authoritative to say the least, that you are defining what is hierarchical and what is not from your own subjective views?

    If the conclusion that we all are entitled, or ought to have food and shelter is illogically derived from the mere existence of an instinct (deriving ought from is,) if these views are completely subjective, is your criticism of Capitalism merely a perceptual one; not at all based in fact?

    Property is merely a mutually respected construct within society. All forms of property are completely arbitrary (NOTE: Remember, this is directed towards Anarchists, so disregard the state's presence), and within those frameworks of property, property is defended with violence, how then can you criticize the violence implemented in the protection of property within a capitalist society? The same violence is used within your own arbitrary frameworks. Neither is "immoral" or "moral."


    Alright, I don't have the original questions (which I believe were formulated far better) so if I missed something, I'll just put it into a response.

    No no you see the rules of language are purely arbitrary stodgy ivory-tower crap we doesn't have to worried aboard because everytime history on you rebendible sausage mountain.
  • Unfortunately, your country aren't capitalistic anymore...

    One of the greatest flaws of communism, is it's origin - the marxist philosophy, which is full of big errors (like trying to be rational and supposedly throwing away all of the abstracts, and then accepting abstracts like the abstract man or abstract society).

    I'm going to translate for you in english a excerpt of Witold Gombrowich's lecture about philosophy - the one regarding marxism. Because it's the great idea - but unfortunately only an idea, it can't be anything else.

    There can't be a "system is good, but the people are bad". Good system can exploit the "badness" of people (fe: greed) for the benefit of whole society.

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