Rappers' IQ?

I haven't met many metalheads who were nice people. Almost all metalheads I met are assholes and idiots. Almost all anti-something groups got metal in the charts. Not a good sign.

The hip-hop fans I know are pretty cultured and intelligent folks who respect most genres.

The crunk fans I know are the equivalent of a typical metalcore fan.

The metalheads I know balance between both. But mostly upon the vein of narrow-minded drones. To be honest.

Darsa said:
Yes, these bands tend to also be on anti-groups' charts. But along with metal. I saw alot of stuff like Opeth, Children Of Bodom, Metallica, Iron Maiden, In Flames, and more.
all great bands so what is the problem?

Darsa said:
Yes, these bands tend to also be on anti-groups' charts. But along with metal. I saw alot of stuff like Opeth, Children Of Bodom, Metallica, Iron Maiden, In Flames, and more.
Another proof that you are not up to date on metal bands. You should know that Metallica, Opeth Children of Bodom, In Flames, Burzum who WERE Metal Bands at one time, changed their style (most likely for commercial purposes) from Metal to various forms of Alternative Rock. Yes, they became popular, but they do not really represent METAL or metalheads in the 'anti-charts'.

Don't give me that "false metal" bullshit. I don't buy that. If it's false metal, and 50 Cent & Soulja Boy are false hip-hop damn it. Besides, the fact they WERE metal is enough. Oh, it's known alot of rap fans are SUBURBAN.

I just made this post int he niggers thread and thought I'd post it here. its about the iq of black people, not just rappers, but i figured it's close enough...



Every one of my psychology professors (along with the textbooks they assigned) have taught that nobody really knows if race and IQ are linked, but it's generally accepted that other factors hold almost all influence in determining a person's IQ (poverty level, family environment, etc.).

The iq test, since it was created by a white man for white men, test things only the white man sees as contributing to intelligence. ie: Giving african's an iq test is unfair since it wasn't made for them. So even if the average black IQ score was smaller than the average white IQ, does this make them stupid? Of course not, it just means their priorities lie in categories other than verbal and mathematical skills. Then, if you were so inclined, you could apply this to the theory of multiple intelligences; i usually prefer not to though, since it's a pretty heavily debated theory without any real concrete proof.

And, i'm sorry, but your idea about finding out which race all the "greatest inventors, chess players, scientists, etc" came from is absolutely retarded. You'd be a fool to use any evidence along those lines to justify a theory that one race is more intelligent than another. Be logical.

I said that because I had the feeling you'll pull the "false metal" card, which every metalhead pulls on bands he doesn't like.

Manowar1 said:
Gowienczyk said:
You'd have to be a moron if you think those bands play alternative rock, being that's my favorite genre: I think I know if it's alternative rock or not.
At another forum the consensus was that the newer albums of these bands are best classified as alternative rock. You do not have to like all versions of alt rock.
The point of my statement was that they play ROCK instead of metal, not to argue about various subgenres.
well the members of my internet forum all agree that Linkin Park is death metal. SO SHALL IT IS WRITTEN, SO SHALL IT BE DONE. AMIRITE?!

/sarcasm

seriously though... bodom's new album... alternative rock? you best be joking. i'd like to hear the justification of this, if you have the time.

oh, and nobody, not even the most elite of the elitists would say that opeth and burzum don't play metal.

Does it REALLY matters if a band is metal or not? I mean, 24-7 Spyz are for me metal, but they also add different styles, betraying the metalheads and becoming a creative band.

Manowar1 said:
Gowienczyk said:
You'd have to be a moron if you think those bands play alternative rock, being that's my favorite genre: I think I know if it's alternative rock or not.
At another forum the consensus was that the newer albums of these bands are best classified as alternative rock. You do not have to like all versions of alt rock.
The point of my statement was that they play ROCK instead of metal, not to argue about various subgenres.

Alternative Rock is dynamic and specific genre. None of the bands you listed ever fall into it's prerequisites.

ElMusicBox said:
I just made this post int he niggers thread and thought I'd post it here. its about the iq of black people, not just rappers, but i figured it's close enough...



Every one of my psychology professors (along with the textbooks they assigned) have taught that nobody really knows if race and IQ are linked, but it's generally accepted that other factors hold almost all influence in determining a person's IQ (poverty level, family environment, etc.).

The iq test, since it was created by a white man for white men, test things only the white man sees as contributing to intelligence. ie: Giving african's an iq test is unfair since it wasn't made for them. So even if the average black IQ score was smaller than the average white IQ, does this make them stupid? Of course not, it just means their priorities lie in categories other than verbal and mathematical skills. Then, if you were so inclined, you could apply this to the theory of multiple intelligences; i usually prefer not to though, since it's a pretty heavily debated theory without any real concrete proof.

And, i'm sorry, but your idea about finding out which race all the "greatest inventors, chess players, scientists, etc" came from is absolutely retarded. You'd be a fool to use any evidence along those lines to justify a theory that one race is more intelligent than another. Be logical.
I have never said that rappers and/or black people are stupid. I just would like to KNOW, not to justify something to myself or anyone else. Besides, the real IQ test is made for people, not for a significant race, since it includes only "what picture comes next" problems.

henkka93 said:
ElMusicBox said:
I just made this post int he niggers thread and thought I'd post it here. its about the iq of black people, not just rappers, but i figured it's close enough...


Every one of my psychology professors (along with the textbooks they assigned) have taught that nobody really knows if race and IQ are linked, but it's generally accepted that other factors hold almost all influence in determining a person's IQ (poverty level, family environment, etc.).

The iq test, since it was created by a white man for white men, test things only the white man sees as contributing to intelligence. ie: Giving african's an iq test is unfair since it wasn't made for them. So even if the average black IQ score was smaller than the average white IQ, does this make them stupid? Of course not, it just means their priorities lie in categories other than verbal and mathematical skills. Then, if you were so inclined, you could apply this to the theory of multiple intelligences; i usually prefer not to though, since it's a pretty heavily debated theory without any real concrete proof.

And, i'm sorry, but your idea about finding out which race all the "greatest inventors, chess players, scientists, etc" came from is absolutely retarded. You'd be a fool to use any evidence along those lines to justify a theory that one race is more intelligent than another. Be logical.
I have never said that rappers and/or black people are stupid. I just would like to KNOW, not to justify something to myself or anyone else. Besides, the real IQ test is made for people, not for a significant race, since it includes only "what picture comes next" problems.

I know you weren't assuming anything about the IQ of black people or rappers or whatever. sorry if that's how it came across. i was actually responding to manowar1's post in another thread, so my post is easily misinterpreted. but back to arguing...

The "real" iq test (whatever that means) was not made for just anyone. Like i said, it was made by western european psychologists and tests for things western europeans believe contribute to intelligence. If some african tribesman made a test that measures how smart a person is, it would likely consist of things much different than our iq test today. this is simply because their society values different traits than ours does.

Most people don't realize that the iq test wasn't meant to be a test that measures intelligence for just anyone. it was created as a tool that would help educators determine which subjects need emphasis when teaching academically struggling children. Another thing people don't realize is that intelligence is not a character trait. You can actually study certain things to greatly increase your IQ. For example, by studying spatial problems you'll do better on the "what picture comes next" questions.

if you don't believe any of this, go find an iq test proctor, and they can probably explain it to you better than i can. : /