Should'nt we make artist connections to all artist whore are vocally opposed to Communism and/or adhere a ideology which anti-communist such as Anarchism or Objectivism?
Quoth Kaiserguard: Should'nt we make artist connections to all artist whore are vocally opposed to Communism and/or adhere a ideology which anti-communist such as Anarchism or Objectivism?
Thats youre opinion, personally I hate Fascism and Nazism as much as Communism, but since this group is for all Anti-Communists whenever ideology they support, lets keep it as neutral as possible and make connections to ALL anti-communist artists.
You know I also hate Anti-Communists who think: "Oh I hate Communism so I am giong te be exactly the opposite of it, I giong to be Fascist". Fascism and Communism are both collectivist and hypocrite ideologies, the only differinces are that Communism blames poverty to the Capitalists and Fascism to "racial enemies".
Anarchism is quite differint from Communism - Communist governments have total control over a country while Anarchism wants no government at all - besides Communism is collectivist while Anarchism is indivudialist (indivudialism and collectivism cant go togehter).
Quoth Kaiserguard: You know I also hate Anti-Communists who think: "Oh I hate Communism so I am giong te be exactly the opposite of it, I giong to be Fascist". Fascism and Communism are both collectivist and hypocrite ideologies, the only differinces are that Communism blames poverty to the Capitalists and Fascism to "racial enemies".
Do you see any fascist here?
Quoth Kaiserguard: Anarchism is quite differint from Communism - Communist governments have total control over a country while Anarchism wants no government at all - besides Communism is collectivist while Anarchism is indivudialist (indivudialism and collectivism cant go togehter).
Both anarchism and communism say that property is bad and everything should be shared between everybody (even if it will be stolen to share it). Also anarchism goes together with collectivism. Read some anarchist ideologists.
Kaiserguard said: You know I also hate Anti-Communists who think: "Oh I hate Communism so I am giong te be exactly the opposite of it, I giong to be Fascist"
If you didin't know Fasisim is banned in most countries, as for communism is quite oposite... besides no person from this group annouced himself as fasist. I don't think that fasisim is in any way better than communism. My idea for this group was to announce that communism also should be banned just like fasism.
Fascism is not the opposite of communism.Fascism is the opposite of anarchism.While national-conservatives are totally against both of the left-winged-radicals - anarchists and communists.There is no place for lefts here. ______________ |comm---------fasc| |-----------------------| |-----------------------| |-----------------------| |___________nat| |------------------con.| |-----------------------| |-----------------------| |anarch.-------fund.| _____________
Blemblem said: But remember - most known anarchist ideologists - Pierre Joseph Proudhon, Francis Dumartheray and Max Stirner - were also communists.
Don't forget Mikhail Bakunin. His commie-like opinions are very visible.
But Max Stirner... I wouldn't describe him as a commie. I like some of his philosophical works. He was individualist anarchist (philosophical, liberal anarchist). It's quite close to classical (laissez-faire) liberalism. He didn't identify himself as anarchist. Don't forget he has translated Adam Smith's works into German, it's rather unusual for communists, would you agree?
There are many variants of anarchism, including indivualist anarchism and anarcho-capitalism (which respects private property). I think Kaiserguard understand anarchism this way.
You proposed rac bands, you know they are often also nazi. (It doesn't mean I think you're a nazi, but it could make Kaiserguard think you are.)
My propositions: some Polish punk, reggae and new wave bands, which were against communism in Polish People Republic period: Dezerter, Kult, Armia, Siekiera, Kryzys, Brygada Kryzys, Izrael, Moskwa, KSU... and many more.
This bands are here necessary. Not only were they anticommunists before 1989, but Kazik also supports conservative liberalism very strongly after this date.
OK, but this is not a "conservative liberalism group" (and I don't think he is conservative libertarian, he is rather against religion, especially mariage of religion and country, he supports legalisation of drugs - it's not conservative point of view. Read new "Teraz Rock" and Kazik's "striptease" there). Kult - of course, I agree, but other Kazik's projects were founded after 1989 and lyrics rather doesn't contain anti-communist opinions.
He voted for UPR (the most conservative party in Poland). He always tells, that the most improtant thing in his life is family. And he criticises "progress", for example in song "Dzisiejszy styl" (on "Czterdziesty pierwszy").
He is atheist, but I don't think he is "against religion". Maybe in the past, but now he only complains about some things in Catholicism. And sometimes I agree with him (e.g. cult of John Paul II, which is criticised also by very conservative writer - Waldemar Łysiak).
There is a lot of conservatists supporting legalisation of drugs - e.g. Janusz Korwin-Mikke (the former chef of UPR). UPR has this point in it's programm.
And if you have read "striptease" in "Teraz Rock" carefully, you can see, that Kazik supports now polish conservative government.
Kefir87, you're saying bullshit. I voted for NOD (the National Rebirth of Poland) which is more extremist than UPR (the Union of Polish Famies (quasi-commie bastards, as the name says itself)).
And Korwin Mikke is uber-liberal. Just check his economic thoughts.
Add The Analogs and Lumpex'75 (do not insert any space in Lump~~!) Those are good Oi! bands, which reject all authorities.
(the Union of Polish Famies (quasi-commie bastards, as the name says itself)).
What? Do you think about the Leauge of Polish Families? UPR is Union of Realistic Politic. NOP is extremist, but is not conservative. Conservative parties does not come out on the streets and throw rocks in their opponents. Korwin-Mikke is liberal, but conservative liberal. It's the IDEAL opposition to communism, not nacionalism, which accepts the social state.
Drug legalisation, actually, drug decriminalisation is a conservative idea. Drugs were legal for 99% of human history. Criminalisation of some drugs is a plainly left wing idea. As a left wing I mean something completely not connected with reality or logic, and made to brainwash masses. There is no real reason to make drugs illegal but to make drug bussines very profitable.
Below that \/ line I wrote more about the subject. It's long and boring and because of that better don't read it at all. ----------------------------- In Poland there is a saying "Jak nie wiadomo o co chodzi to wiadomo, że chodzi o pieniądze" meaning more or less, "If you don't know what's that all fuss about, it's about money." It really fits this situation. I doubt that anyone will say that there are reasons like "saving stupid (socialists don't add stupid, cos they 'know' that all people are stupid and should be nothing more but slaves for their always-knowing-best and knowing-better-than-you-what-is-good-for-you country) people" from harm, limiting drug acces for underaged and other lies. In fact, criminalisation makes even marijuana dangerous for health (enpovered with unknown chemical substances). The only true reasons of implementing such 'anti-drug' policies are: 1. To give monopoly of drug trade to criminals, in fact, to organised crime groups aka mafias. - monopoly, opposition of copmetition in economy, means that only monopolist (mafia) will profit on this part of market and that people will have no choice and will have to buy even the most expensive and worst product (drug). 2. To make drug trade profitable. - producing 1g of marijuana costs in Poland less than 4PLN. it is sometimes sold even for 40PLN per gram. because of constant competition between producers, most of products are sold at 130% of their production price, which is not so good for producers and very good for consumers, simply giving them the cheapest product. in comparision, marijuana can be sold even for 1000% of it's production price. Why? Because mafia was given monopoly for drug production from government. Cooperation between mafia and democratical-socialist governments is IMO another interesting subject and if any1 would like to know more about it - just say it, cos I would enjoy writing a bit about that. Thanks for reading the whole thing. Hope I made sense.
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said: But remember - most known anarchist ideologists - Pierre Joseph Proudhon, Francis Dumartheray and Max Stirner - were also communists.
As long as it is voluntarily I have no problem with commies, socialists, fascists, christians, muslims, or any other persuasion. The basic problem is that some people want to force other people to live the same way they do.
If they apply their way of life only to themselves then all is ok.
Impaled Nazarene have always been the center of controversy. "Suomi Finland Perkele" has received complaints from a youth communist group in Paris, France for its material, and the band's very risque lyrics seem to always be a problem for people to cope with.
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