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- Tecfan schrieb...
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- 29. Jun. 2010, 10:22
Suggestion: release "hidden" features

It's probably soon summer time at Last.fm, so a little something to make us site update-lovers happy could be releasing some of your hidden pages?

And by "releasing" I mean actually putting up links to these pages. It would even help the few of us who knows about these pages, because I always forget about them..

I don't remember them all, but here are some of them: (if some of them are already linked, forgive me)
http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/library/moderatedtracks (auto-corrected tracks)
http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/library/moderatedartists (auto-corrected artists)
http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/library/reminder (artists you haven't listened to recently)
http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/context (how well do we compare?)
http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/replytracker (track your forum posts, link very hidden)
http://www.last.fm/home/reading (recommended journals and news)
http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery (what your friends has discovered recently)
http://www.last.fm/place/norway (place pages, also kinda hidden)
http://www.last.fm/music/Tecfan/Guitar+Pro+2/+images (album art overview with links to large versions)
http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/journal/2009/05 (monthly overview page of journals)
http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/journal/2009/ (yearly overview page of journals)
http://www.last.fm/label/Universal+Music+AS/listeners?page=2 (page 2 of listeners on label pages)
http://www.last.fm/inbox/compose?to=Tecfan&subject=Tecfan%20Netlabel&body=I%20heart%20Tecfan. (pre-filled private messages)

Radios:
Personalized radios
My library, but only rock music:
browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/personal/tag/rock
client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/personal/tag/rock

My mix radio, but only classical music:
browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/mix/tag/classical
client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/mix/tag/classical

My recommendations, but only with female musicians:
browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/recommended/tag/female
client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/recommended/tag/female

My friends, but only blues music:
browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/friends/tag/blues
client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/friends/tag/blues

My neighbours, but only with german musicians:
browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/neighbours/tag/german
client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/neighbours/tag/german
Source: http://www.last.fm/forum/21717/_/674893/1#f14620483

+++ (if anybody remember more, feel free to add it to the thread)

"Hidden" "BBcode" for the http://lastfmdiscover.radio.com/ comment section

[lastfm link_type="artist"]Tecfan[/lastfm] (this gives a link to http://www.last.fm/listen/artist/Tecfan/similarartists)
[lastfm link_type="label"]Tecfan netlabel[/lastfm] (haven't tested but I guess it works)
[lastfm play="around"][/lastfm

[lastfm link_type="artist_info"]

If you're into experimental midicore/guitarprocore, you might enjoy my (free) tracks: Tecfan

[quote][b][user]Tecfan[/user][/b] sagte: It's probably soon summer time at Last.fm, so a little something to make us site update-lovers happy could be releasing some of your hidden pages? And by "releasing" I mean actually putting up links to these pages. It would even help the few of us who knows about these pages, because I always forget about them.. I don't remember them all, but here are some of them: (if some of them are already linked, forgive me) http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/library/moderatedtracks [size=5](auto-corrected tracks)[/size] http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/library/moderatedartists [size=5](auto-corrected artists)[/size] http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/library/reminder [size=5](artists you haven't listened to recently)[/size] http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/context [size=5](how well do we compare?)[/size] http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/replytracker [size=5](track your forum posts, link very hidden)[/size] http://www.last.fm/home/reading [size=5](recommended journals and news)[/size] http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery [size=5](what your friends has discovered recently)[/size] http://www.last.fm/place/norway [size=5](place pages, also kinda hidden)[/size] http://www.last.fm/music/Tecfan/Guitar+Pro+2/+images [size=5](album art overview with links to large versions)[/size] http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/journal/2009/05 [size=5](monthly overview page of journals)[/size] http://www.last.fm/user/Tecfan/journal/2009/ [size=5](yearly overview page of journals)[/size] http://www.last.fm/label/Universal+Music+AS/listeners?page=2 [size=5](page 2 of listeners on label pages)[/size] http://www.last.fm/inbox/compose?to=Tecfan&subject=Tecfan%20Netlabel&body=I%20heart%20Tecfan. [size=5](pre-filled private messages)[/size] [b]Radios[/b]: Personalized radios [quote]My library, but only rock music: browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/personal/tag/rock client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/personal/tag/rock My mix radio, but only classical music: browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/mix/tag/classical client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/mix/tag/classical My recommendations, but only with female musicians: browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/recommended/tag/female client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/recommended/tag/female My friends, but only blues music: browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/friends/tag/blues client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/friends/tag/blues My neighbours, but only with german musicians: browser: http://www.last.fm/listen/user/hjbardenhagen/neighbours/tag/german client: lastfm://user/hjbardenhagen/neighbours/tag/german[/quote] Source: http://www.last.fm/forum/21717/_/674893/1#f14620483 +++ (if anybody remember more, feel free to add it to the thread) "Hidden" "BBcode" for the http://lastfmdiscover.radio.com/ comment section [quote] [lastfm link_type="artist"]Tecfan[/lastfm] (this gives a link to http://www.last.fm/listen/artist/Tecfan/similarartists) [lastfm link_type="label"]Tecfan netlabel[/lastfm] (haven't tested but I guess it works) [lastfm play="around"][/lastfm [lastfm link_type="artist_info"][/quote][/quote]
Bearbeitet von Tecfan am 15. Mai. 2011, 14:13

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- [Gelöschter Benutzer] schrieb...
- Benutzer
- 29. Jun. 2010, 11:00
We're on the case, trust me :)

In the majority of cases, the challenge is finding a useful way to include these in the UI, rather than any desire to keep these "hidden". I can't give promises or specifics obviously, but we're working on ways to integrate these on the site.

You might want to add: http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery (because it's awesome)

[quote][b][user][/user][/b] sagte: We're on the case, trust me :) In the majority of cases, the challenge is finding a useful way to include these in the UI, rather than any desire to keep these "hidden". I can't give promises or specifics obviously, but we're working on ways to integrate these on the site. You might want to add: http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery (because it's awesome)[/quote]

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- Tecfan schrieb...
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- 29. Jun. 2010, 13:44
Wow, http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery is awesome! Was this mentioned in any site update note like the others?

If you're into experimental midicore/guitarprocore, you might enjoy my (free) tracks: Tecfan

[quote][b][user]Tecfan[/user][/b] sagte: Wow, http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery is awesome! Was this mentioned in any site update note like the others?[/quote]

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- percy74 schrieb...
- Benutzer
- 29. Jun. 2010, 15:07
Nice, I didn't know about the "friend discovery" or the "context" pages.

There are also the country pages: http://www.last.fm/place/united+states

Although I can see why those are still hidden, as they need a little work (some of the features of those pages are broken).

As an aside, I think it would also be cool to have a page for [no country] as well. I imagine it could be the largest "country" of all.

[quote][b][user]percy74[/user][/b] sagte: Nice, I didn't know about the "friend discovery" or the "context" pages. There are also the country pages: http://www.last.fm/place/united+states Although I can see why those are still hidden, as they need a little work (some of the features of those pages are broken). [size=7]As an aside, I think it would also be cool to have a page for [no country] as well. I imagine it could be the largest "country" of all.[/size][/quote]

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- Ziomek2000 schrieb...
- Moderator
- 29. Jun. 2010, 15:56
Hidden album art, e.g. http://www.last.fm/music/Miusha/Strings+Theory/+images.

Facet zaprosił mnie do kina i w połowie drogi pyta mnie: "A stać Cię na bilet..."?...i tak ma być.

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[quote][b][user]Ziomek2000[/user][/b] sagte: Hidden album art, e.g. [url]http://www.last.fm/music/Miusha/Strings+Theory/+images[/url].[/quote]

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- Babs_05 schrieb...
- Forum Moderator
- 29. Jun. 2010, 19:58
My new favourite thread. Tracked... :D

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Nov 11 | Reco of the Week - Jon Kennedy – The Goose Is Getting Fat

[quote][b][user]Babs_05[/user][/b] sagte: My new favourite thread. Tracked... :D[/quote]

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- rwitte schrieb...
- Abonnent
- 29. Jun. 2010, 20:06
+1 also

replytracker is public already (link in grapevine)

I link to the others from my about me, apart from context, which should be served by links from the recent visitors to your page, but isn't (perhaps somebody will write a greasemonkey?).

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[quote][b][user]rwitte[/user][/b] sagte: +1 also replytracker is public already (link in [i]grapevine[/i]) I link to the others from my [i]about me[/i], apart from [i]context[/i], which should be served by links from the [i]recent visitors to your page[/i], but isn't (perhaps somebody will write a greasemonkey?). [/quote]

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- morti-viventi schrieb...
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- 30. Jun. 2010, 4:26
Why can't I see the friends discovery page? Is it 'cause I'm not a subscriber? The context one doesn't work either but it explicitly says I can't see it because I'm not a subscriber; the friends discovery page just gives me a

you're a pro tool.

[quote][b][user]morti-viventi[/user][/b] sagte: Why can't I see the friends discovery page? Is it 'cause I'm not a subscriber? The context one doesn't work either but it explicitly says I can't see it because I'm not a subscriber; the friends discovery page just gives me a [img]http://cdn.last.fm/marvin.gif[/img][/quote]

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- foreverautumn schrieb...
- Last.fm-Team
- 30. Jun. 2010, 7:44
Yes, this is only available to subscribers so far.

[quote][b][user]foreverautumn[/user][/b] sagte: Yes, this is only available to subscribers so far.[/quote]

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- DoctorT schrieb...
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- 30. Jun. 2010, 15:59
Tecfan said:
Wow, http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery is awesome!
Agreed. I hadn't stumbled on this page before. For now, I have simply bookmarked the hidden pages as I find them in my browser.

Music, like language, is universal.

[quote][b][user]DoctorT[/user][/b] sagte: [quote][b][user]Tecfan[/user][/b] said: Wow, http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery is awesome![/quote] Agreed. I hadn't stumbled on this page before. For now, I have simply bookmarked the hidden pages as I find them in my browser.[/quote]

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- megadethnatic schrieb...
- Benutzer
- 30. Jun. 2010, 16:29
And what does it actually do?
But I didn't even now that the "reading" tab somehow still exists.

Moderated tracks and artists are all those that get auto-corrected, right?

[quote][b][user]megadethnatic[/user][/b] sagte: And what does it actually do? But I didn't even now that the "reading" tab somehow still exists. Moderated tracks and artists are all those that get auto-corrected, right?[/quote]

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- fmera schrieb...
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- 30. Jun. 2010, 16:45
not so much a hidden feature but rather forgotten is that playlists can still be played with the lastfm client, or the default playlist at least:

lastfm://user/username/playlist

strictly for the ursaphobic.

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there are some things pngs can't fix. for everything else, there's pngoptimizer.

[quote][b][user]fmera[/user][/b] sagte: not so much a hidden feature but rather forgotten is that playlists can still be played with the lastfm client, or the default playlist at least: [url]lastfm://user/username/playlist[/url] strictly for the ursaphobic.[/quote]

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- rfruth11 schrieb...
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- 1. Jul. 2010, 3:47
thank U all !

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[quote][b][user]rfruth11[/user][/b] sagte: thank U all ![/quote]

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- gpberlin schrieb...
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- 1. Jul. 2010, 8:49
Cool thanx! I added them to my profile page!

[quote][b][user]gpberlin[/user][/b] sagte: Cool thanx! I added them to my profile page![/quote]

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- temujin1234 schrieb...
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- 1. Jul. 2010, 9:37
foreverautumn said:
Yes, this is only available to subscribers so far.Any chance of a brief description for non-subscribers?

Music Knowledge Challenge

[quote][b][user]temujin1234[/user][/b] sagte: [quote][b][user]foreverautumn[/user][/b] said: Yes, this is only available to subscribers so far.[/quote]Any chance of a brief description for non-subscribers? [/quote]

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- bengt_bangt schrieb...
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- 1. Jul. 2010, 9:49
temujin1234 said:
foreverautumn said:
Yes, this is only available to subscribers so far.Any chance of a brief description for non-subscribers? http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery
shows which bands your friends discovered lately (ranged from yesterday to last year), grouped by genres and ordered after the times they listened to it...
or alternatively you can see your own discoveries too ;)

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[quote][b][user]bengt_bangt[/user][/b] sagte: [quote][b][user]temujin1234[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]foreverautumn[/user][/b] said: Yes, this is only available to subscribers so far.[/quote]Any chance of a brief description for non-subscribers? [/quote] http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery shows which bands your friends discovered lately (ranged from yesterday to last year), grouped by genres and ordered after the times they listened to it... or alternatively you can see your own discoveries too ;)[/quote]

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- akrde schrieb...
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- 1. Jul. 2010, 13:16
...tracked!

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[quote][b][user]akrde[/user][/b] sagte: ...tracked![/quote]

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- temujin1234 schrieb...
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- 1. Jul. 2010, 13:38
bengt_bangt said:
temujin1234 said:
foreverautumn said:
Yes, this is only available to subscribers so far.Any chance of a brief description for non-subscribers? http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery
shows which bands your friends discovered lately (ranged from yesterday to last year), grouped by genres and ordered after the times they listened to it...
or alternatively you can see your own discoveries too ;)Thanks. Looks like a good idea.

Music Knowledge Challenge

[quote][b][user]temujin1234[/user][/b] sagte: [quote][b][user]bengt_bangt[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]temujin1234[/user][/b] said: [quote][b][user]foreverautumn[/user][/b] said: Yes, this is only available to subscribers so far.[/quote]Any chance of a brief description for non-subscribers? [/quote] http://www.last.fm/home/friendsdiscovery shows which bands your friends discovered lately (ranged from yesterday to last year), grouped by genres and ordered after the times they listened to it... or alternatively you can see your own discoveries too ;)[/quote]Thanks. Looks like a good idea.[/quote]

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- WichitaQ schrieb...
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- 1. Jul. 2010, 13:56
although i can understand why it isn't fully implemented in the site, but why not link to those on the subscription page? surely more ways to attract subscribers is a good thing.

[quote][b][user]WichitaQ[/user][/b] sagte: although i can understand why it isn't fully implemented in the site, but why not link to those on the [url=http://www.last.fm/subscribe]subscription page[/url]? surely more ways to attract subscribers is a good thing.[/quote]

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- akrde schrieb...
- Abonnent
- 1. Jul. 2010, 15:03
WichitaQ said:
although i can understand why it isn't fully implemented in the site, but why not link to those on the subscription page? surely more ways to attract subscribers is a good thing.

Do you really think that you can stop this downside trend, which started with non-free radios for non-US/UK/Germany users in April 2009, with a few new (beta) stats pages?

If people aren't interested in Last.fm anymore because of the loss of free music, they surely would never pay for any stats, wouldn't they? ;)

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[quote][b][user]akrde[/user][/b] sagte: [quote][b][user]WichitaQ[/user][/b] said: although i can understand why it isn't fully implemented in the site, but why not link to those on the [url=http://www.last.fm/subscribe]subscription page[/url]? surely more ways to attract subscribers is a good thing.[/quote] Do you really think that you can stop this downside trend, which started with non-free radios for non-US/UK/Germany users in April 2009, with a few new (beta) stats pages? [img]http://i50.tinypic.com/2v16gxe.jpg[/img] If people aren't interested in Last.fm anymore because of the loss of free music, they surely would never pay for any stats, wouldn't they? ;)[/quote]

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- WichitaQ schrieb...
- Abonnent
- 1. Jul. 2010, 15:18
so, instead of making minor changes and adding few links in order to attract a customer or two, we should simply abandon it because, alas, it won't give us bazillion of dollars and a huge google search volume?

i'm really sorry to inform you, but that logic is NOT flawless :D

[quote][b][user]WichitaQ[/user][/b] sagte: so, instead of making minor changes and adding few links in order to attract a customer or two, we should simply abandon it because, alas, it won't give us bazillion of dollars and a huge google search volume? i'm really sorry to inform you, but that logic is NOT flawless :D[/quote]

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- Tecfan schrieb...
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- 1. Jul. 2010, 15:23
True. also, search volume index tells us very little about actual usage of the site.. now site usage.. that would go up by having a friend finder ^^

If you're into experimental midicore/guitarprocore, you might enjoy my (free) tracks: Tecfan

[quote][b][user]Tecfan[/user][/b] sagte: True. also, search volume index tells us very little about actual usage of the site.. now site usage.. that would go up by having a friend finder ^^[/quote]

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- akrde schrieb...
- Abonnent
- 1. Jul. 2010, 15:30
WichitaQ said:
i'm really sorry to inform you, but that logic is NOT flawless :D

Last.fm isn't in need to attract "a customer or two", they are in need to attract several 10,000 new users to make profit finally. It's all about money for CBS and it's all about music (not stats) for the paying users, the google trend speaks for itself....

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[quote][b][user]akrde[/user][/b] sagte: [quote][b][user]WichitaQ[/user][/b] said: i'm really sorry to inform you, but that logic is NOT flawless :D[/quote] Last.fm isn't in need to attract "a customer or two", they are in need to attract several 10,000 new users to make profit finally. It's all about money for CBS and it's all about music (not stats) for the paying users, the google trend speaks for itself....[/quote]

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- WichitaQ schrieb...
- Abonnent
- 1. Jul. 2010, 15:34
akrde said:
Last.fm isn't in need to attract "a customer or two", they are in need to attract several 10,000 new users to make profit finally.again, what's the reasoning behind not implementing it? if i can't attract 10000 users at once, i shouldn't even bother to get 100 of them? after that, it's surely easier to have 9900 of them left, instead of the starting 10000. it's your own example :D

[quote][b][user]WichitaQ[/user][/b] sagte: [quote][b][user]akrde[/user][/b] said: Last.fm isn't in need to attract "a customer or two", they are in need to attract several 10,000 new users to make profit finally.[/quote]again, what's the reasoning behind not implementing it? if i can't attract 10000 users at once, i shouldn't even bother to get 100 of them? after that, it's surely easier to have 9900 of them left, instead of the starting 10000. it's your own example :D[/quote]

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- akrde schrieb...
- Abonnent
- 1. Jul. 2010, 15:45
WichitaQ said:
again, what's the reasoning behind not implementing it? if i can't attract 10000 users at once, i shouldn't even bother to get 100 of them?

Bad cost-benefit ratio.... ;)

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[quote][b][user]akrde[/user][/b] sagte: [quote][b][user]WichitaQ[/user][/b] said: again, what's the reasoning behind not implementing it? if i can't attract 10000 users at once, i shouldn't even bother to get 100 of them?[/quote] Bad cost-benefit ratio.... ;)[/quote]

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